House Of The Dragon Season 2

[Doctor Know]

I figured I'd make a new thread rather than necropost in a two year old one, that was used for season 1.

House of the Dragon Season 2, Winds of Winter Where Are You?

Hello again, friends and neighbors. Its 2 years since HOTD season 1, 5 years since GOT ended and 13 years since the 5th book in ASOIAF (A Dance With Dragons) was released. And we are still no closer to getting a release for The Winds of Winter.


We do however have Dual/Dueling trailers for the release of HOTD Season 2.

~ All Must Choose ~

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[Doctor Know]

The Blacks

[JBatmanFan05]

Good promotional material. I'm hoping this season is far better than Season 1, which underwhelmed me a ton. Fire & Blood is I think my favorite GRRM book and paints a more nuanced mysterious deeply gray civil war.

I came to Season 1 really excited for Criston Cole, but this younger more foolish show version isn't working for me yet. Book Cole struck me as at least slightly more Tywin-esque, clever, ambitious, more similar to how Otto (or Daemon) is portrayed in this show.

[Kirby101]

I disliked season 1. I will not watch this unless I here from others who did not think it was good say it has improved.

[thwhtGuardian]

I disliked season 1. I will not watch this unless I here from others who did not think it was good say it has improved.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat I couldn't get through the first season so unless this does something really amazing I don't think I'll be checking this out.

For the life of me I can't figure out why they didn't go for adapting the Dunk and Egg stories instead of Fire and Blood. Don't get me wrong, there are some cool battles in Fire and Blood but the characters always came across as bland and one dimensional to me.

[Doctor Know]

Yeah, I'm in the same boat I couldn't get through the first season so unless this does something really amazing I don't think I'll be checking this out.

For the life of me I can't figure out why they didn't go for adapting the Dunk and Egg stories instead of Fire and Blood. Don't get me wrong, there are some cool battles in Fire and Blood but the characters always came across as bland and one dimensional to me.

There was talk of there being Dunk and Egg show in the future. We have to remember the viability of the GOT brand was the biggest issue after season 8. The brand was basically dead and no one was expecting it to come back.

Initially, the old regime at HBO wanted a Long Night Prequel titled Blood Moon. And the stuff they wanted in it was ridiculous. They wanted White Walkers (obviously), big battles against the undead, Starks vs Lannister feud, black people as the elves/Children of The Forest, iconic shots of famous places from GOT and dragons. They reportedly spent $30-$35 million on pre-production on the show before it all fell apart on them.

With a prequel set 8,000 years before Thrones. None of the stuff executives wanted to see in the prequel would be there. You would only have Starks and First Men vs Walkers. No castles, only villages. No Wall, no Dragons, no capital city, no famous houses. Nothing. Which they would hurt to make even 1 season out of.


GRRM talked them into doing Fire and Blood. They started collaborating with him again. After D&D lost his number after season 4 of Thrones. The Dance of The Dragon has a beginning, middle and end. And with it being relatively close to the GOT era. All the marketable things shareholders and executives expect out of a show would be there.

In season 1, I believe the showrunners said HOTD wouldn't just be about the Dance. With a title like House of the Dragon, they could keep it going and touch other points in Targaryen history. Chiefly Aegon I's Conquest, Aegon IV and the Blackfyre rebellion and Aegon V Dunk and Egg.

David Zaslav is big on making money from all of WB's big name IPs. Mainly DC (Gunnverse), Harry Potter (talk of rebooting the movies from the books) and GOT (HOTD).

[Rev9]

There was talk of there being Dunk and Egg show in the future. We have to remember the viability of the GOT brand was the biggest issue after season 8. The brand was basically dead and no one was expecting it to come back.

Initially, the old regime at HBO wanted a Long Night Prequel titled Blood Moon. And the stuff they wanted in it was ridiculous. They wanted White Walkers (obviously), big battles against the undead, Starks vs Lannister feud, black people as the elves/Children of The Forest, iconic shots of famous places from GOT and dragons. They reportedly spent $30-$35 million on pre-production on the show before it all fell apart on them.

With a prequel set 8,000 years before Thrones. None of the stuff executives wanted to see in the prequel would be there. You would only have Starks and First Men vs Walkers. No castles, only villages. No Wall, no Dragons, no capital city, no famous houses. Nothing. Which they would hurt to make even 1 season out of.


GRRM talked them into doing Fire and Blood. They started collaborating with him again. After D&D lost his number after season 4 of Thrones. The Dance of The Dragon has a beginning, middle and end. And with it being relatively close to the GOT era. All the marketable things shareholders and executives expect out of a show would be there.

In season 1, I believe the showrunners said HOTD wouldn't just be about the Dance. With a title like House of the Dragon, they could keep it going and touch other points in Targaryen history. Chiefly Aegon I's Conquest, Aegon IV and the Blackfyre rebellion and Aegon V Dunk and Egg.

David Zaslav is big on making money from all of WB's big name IPs. Mainly DC (Gunnverse), Harry Potter (talk of rebooting the movies from the books) and GOT (HOTD).

I think GRRM has to pick up the pace on Fire and Blood book II, if we're to get anywhere near the Blackfyre rebellion and that may require a flash forward(I don't know if it helps having separate shows in the same universe competing against each other)Aegon the Unworthy and all his drama needs its own season or two before we even get to the rebellion. I see the DoD era (current House of the Dragon) being narrated through 3 seasons tops, Aegon IV and subsequent first two rebellions being told over like 4 seasons. Though I'd prefer if GRRM adds detail to his general outline by completing the second book before we see those on screen.

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I think GRRM has to pick up the pace on Fire and Blood book II, if we're to get anywhere near the Blackfyre rebellion and that may require a flash forward(I don't know if it helps having separate shows in the same universe competing against each other)Aegon the Unworthy and all his drama needs its own season or two before we even get to the rebellion. I see the DoD era (current House of the Dragon) being narrated through 3 seasons tops, Aegon IV and subsequent first two rebellions being told over like 4 seasons. Though I'd prefer if GRRM adds detail to his general outline by completing the second book before we see those on screen.

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[James Cameron]

First season was awesome- looking forward to this one.

[godisawesome]

Yeah, I'm in the same boat I couldn't get through the first season so unless this does something really amazing I don't think I'll be checking this out.

For the life of me I can't figure out why they didn't go for adapting the Dunk and Egg stories instead of Fire and Blood. Don't get me wrong, there are some cool battles in Fire and Blood but the characters always came across as bland and one dimensional to me.

I liked Season One of HOTD a lot, but I'm also still more in love with Dunk and Egg... and of the opinion that the probable reason this particular part f the myth so got adapted first is stylistic.

Dunk And Egg is basically a more “Stark” Westeros story - main characters with strong moral compasses in conflict with their morally bankrupt and cruel surroundings, often defined by their defiant selflessness and ability to actually pull out a romantic victory or two in spite of the cynical surroundings. Even the antagonists can lean more morally ambiguous rather than outright malevolent (Maekar and Daemon II clearly having more in common with Jaime than the other villainous Lannister’s.)

The Dance of the Dragons, in contrast, is 100% a “Lannister” Westeros story - main characters who are morally ambiguous at best and often completely comprised as a general rule, each consumed by some amoral interest that often only gets mildly softened by how it tends to be focused on their family rather than just themselves. In fact, the show’s general turn is to try and make the most interesting protagonists be outright villains (thus why the Daemon V Aemond rivalry is what we all know they’ll build towards) or totally tragic Classical Anti-Heroes destined for ruin and horror.

...and HBO’s usual repertoire definitely leans more towards the latter style than the former. They’re a company that usually gets its best press for more cynical, darker, more “adult” shows, the darker and more depressing, the better.

[Doctor Know]

@thwhtGuardian

@godisawesome

The Faithful and Just are rewarded. A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is official. With Ser Duncan The Tall and Aegon V being cast as well. Peter Claffey as Dunk & Dexter Sol Ansell as Egg.

https://deadline.com/2024/04/game-of...ng-1235876884/

[thwhtGuardian]

@thwhtGuardian

@godisawesome

The Faithful and Just are rewarded. A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is official. With Ser Duncan The Tall and Aegon V being cast as well. Peter Claffey as Dunk & Dexter Sol Ansell as Egg.

https://deadline.com/2024/04/game-of...ng-1235876884/

That's awesome, I'll definitely tune in for that.

[godisawesome]

@thwhtGuardian

@godisawesome

The Faithful and Just are rewarded. A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is official. With Ser Duncan The Tall and Aegon V being cast as well. Peter Claffey as Dunk & Dexter Sol Ansell as Egg.

https://deadline.com/2024/04/game-of...ng-1235876884/

Exxxxxxcellent.

Now... to await Maekar and Bloodraven’s casting...

[JBatmanFan05]

That's awesome, I'll definitely tune in for that.

Yeah, I'm excited. I suspect I will like this far more than House of the Dragon, partly since Dunk & Egg stories aren't like Fire & Blood, aren't history books filled with deep uncertainty (as to the motivations of the major players and events in history). And the stories are "smaller," and I think have more potential that way.