Kwannon Appreciation 2024

[Hakka84]

And... everything in Fallen Angels is... not the OG creator's ideas.

To be fair, unless we're speaking about Storm(?) and the O5, characters don't get their origins told / explored by the original creator.
Not even sure Scott's, Hank's, Warren's and Bobby's origins (the stories published in X-Men Vol 1) were written by their creators in the first place.

Example. Lee/Kirby idea of Warren was "rich white boy with wings". It was Roy Thomas who decided that Warren had been a superhero on his own. I know it's a small detail, but it's something that would heavily change the whole character of Warren, especially retroactively change how you should perceive him during a re-read of the first X-Men Run, since he was already committed to a "protect the people" mission before becoming Xavier's student.
I haven't checked, but I think the other origins stories were also written by Roy Thomas.

*Also, points to Wolverine*

[Thirteen]

And... everything in Fallen Angels is... not the OG creator's ideas.

Who are we considering Kwannon's creator? Claremont who introduced the Asian woman or Nicieza who decided to make her a separate character?

That series was trash and I wish it could be retconned out of existence. Kwannon didnt come into her own until Hellions

What series should be retconned out of existence? UNCANNY?

[marhawkman]

Who are we considering Kwannon's creator? Claremont who introduced the Asian woman or Nicieza who decided to make her a separate character?

Well.. Claremont didn't use the name Kwannon, soo... probably Nicieza. Though.... did Claremont say anything at all?

[Havok83]

Who are we considering Kwannon's creator? Claremont who introduced the Asian woman or Nicieza who decided to make her a separate character?



What series should be retconned out of existence? UNCANNY?

Nicieza created Kwannon and I was referring to Fallen Angels

[JB]

Well.. Claremont didn't use the name Kwannon, soo... probably Nicieza. Though.... did Claremont say anything at all?

Claremont didn't use the name Kwannon because it wasn't a body swap when he did it. He was planning to undo the body transformation once Jim Lee left the book but Claremont unexpectedly left first. Nicieza later retconned it as a body swap and introduced Kwannon, then killed her shortly thereafter.

[Thirteen]

Nicieza created Kwannon and I was referring to Fallen Angels

Ah, I blur FALLEN ANGELS and HELLIONS for some reason. Thx

[Agent Z]

Psylocke by Dalejomej.

[LordAllMIghty]

Who are we considering Kwannon's creator? Claremont who introduced the Asian woman or Nicieza who decided to make her a separate character?



What series should be retconned out of existence? UNCANNY?

Nice cover.

[MentalManipulator]

Psylocke by Dalejomej.

Finally someone who can draw Kwannon actually looking Asian. She looks gorgeous here!

[Thirteen]

Did Kwannon BB/BPE (Before Betsy or Before Psylocke Era) wear hand assassin garments or was she just a standard ninja suit wearing gal?

[seccruz]

Did Kwannon BB/BPE (Before Betsy or Before Psylocke Era) wear hand assassin garments or was she just a standard ninja suit wearing gal?

She wasn't Hand. She worked for the competition, so no Hand attire, Master Assassin or otherwise.

[Krakoa]

And... everything in Fallen Angels is... not the OG creator's ideas.

"Not the OG creator's ideas" is an insane metric for a character that literally only exists because Fabian Nicezia didn't understand what was going on in Chris Claremont's OG body change story for Psylocke and created Kwannon in a retcon.

[Havok83]

"Not the OG creator's ideas" is an insane metric for a character that literally only exists because Fabian Nicezia didn't understand what was going on in Chris Claremont's OG body change story for Psylocke and created Kwannon in a retcon.

lol...yeah. Nicieza didnt have an original idea for Kwannon. She was literally a goof that he 'corrected' by killing off

[marhawkman]

"Not the OG creator's ideas" is an insane metric for a character that literally only exists because Fabian Nicezia didn't understand what was going on in Chris Claremont's OG body change story for Psylocke and created Kwannon in a retcon.

Well, yes but actually no. If the original plan was... nothing... so be it.

[Thirteen]

Better look at Kwannon's new FROM THE ASHES look by Stegman...