Amazing Spider-Man- A climax of the highly talked about run is coming

[Lukmendes]

We can only hope for a better run after this.

A next writer would need actual talent to be even worse .

If we get another BND writer like Guggenheim in ASM like I've joked about a few times, I won't be surprised if y'all blame me for jinxing it .

To be fair, that's pretty consistent in comics. How many times has Tony or even Ollie Queen lost absolutely everything for it to magically be back under a new writer?

Which's why the idea from Slott's run that Spidey could never get Parker Industries back again is a bit silly... Everyone else can get it, but Spidey can't?

Well, maybe he can't without Otto doing a lot of heavy lifting...

Too many times. They don't even try with Tony anymore so he's been perpetually company-less and "not rich" for a few years now.

Does that make an actual difference? Like do they say he's not rich but he still has basically infinite money?

Honestly that's kind of been an issue for a while now. Spencer's run saw Peter sacked from his Editor job after he got accused of plagiarism and stripped of his PhD. He re-enrolled ECU and was even Connor's Grad Assistant but that's kind of fell by the wayside. And then he worked for Jonah where he was basically paid to just act as Spider-Man. And now he's working for Norman's Oscorb re-startup where....again he's basically just paid to not come in and just be Spider-Man now. lol

There's been this level of escalation in the Peter Parker books where so much of his civilian life is just not bothered with anymore.

Comic books overall deleted the social life super-heroes have, Spidey only keeps his' because of the grandfather clause, same for his secret identity, and the social life in particular is irrelevant since the focus are garbage crossovers for that sweet sweet short term gain.

[Frontier]

At this stage I don't expect much of a resolution with Paul. More like they probably break up off screen in-between this run and the next. lol

Especially when everyone involved is pretty tone-deaf when it comes to Paul.

A next writer would need actual talent to be even worse .

If we get another BND writer like Guggenheim in ASM like I've joked about a few times, I won't be surprised if y'all blame me for jinxing it .

We're either getting Gerry Duggan or another BND writer.

Does that make an actual difference? Like do they say he's not rich but he still has basically infinite money?

I don't think so? At best he's got like a car and a workshop I think, it's not consistent.

[Lukmendes]

Especially when everyone involved is pretty tone-deaf when it comes to Paul.

You're telling me he's not seen as at least the best love interest in existence? .

We're either getting Gerry Duggan or another BND writer.

Maaaan... Like I dunno about his Iron Man, but Duggan's X-Men was, pretty basic and boring, with a bit too much Emma Frost even though she's not even part of the team, and I remember hearing she also ended up in Iron Man but I dunno how much of a role she played there... But I don't want ASM to become "The Amazing Emma Frost starring some Spider-Guy"...

On the other hand, a BND writer... Well it depends on who's writing I guess... Guggenheim as far as I saw would be a mess, and I don't trust Waid with Spidey... Anyone else from that era?

Hopefully I'm just wrong and whoever gets it writes cool ****, 'cause I'd rather be wrong and get fun ****, than be right and get more of this nonsense.

I don't think so? At best he's got like a car and a workshop I think, it's not consistent.

That sounds weird but at least they're not saying he's poor while still being basically rich.

[Sr. Bungle]

Of the BND batch, Joe Kelly could work, Non-Stop Spider-Man and Grim Hunt aside

[marhawkman]

Of the BND batch, Joe Kelly could work, Non-Stop Spider-Man and Grim Hunt aside

that or have someone like Kurt Busiek do it.

[Kevinroc]

We're either getting Gerry Duggan or another BND writer.

That's a depressing thought. ASM desperately needs new blood. And while Duggan could potentially be that... I can't really get excited by that idea based on other things of his that I read.

But with ASM maybe it doesn't matter. It seems like Editorial has a strong grip on that title.

[Mercwmouth12]

That's a depressing thought. ASM desperately needs new blood. And while Duggan could potentially be that... I can't really get excited by that idea based on other things of his that I read.

But with ASM maybe it doesn't matter. It seems like Editorial has a strong grip on that title.

There's no BND writers left that would do an ongoing. All are only doing minis or tie ins. Duggan said a back he is moving away from Marvel and doing more independent work. So far nothing has been hinted they they would use any of the old guard after wells and it's just beaten down mentality that people are stuck in. USM is not an answer and people need to accept that. it's like RYV only temporary

[Knightsilver]

That's a depressing thought. ASM desperately needs new blood. And while Duggan could potentially be that... I can't really get excited by that idea based on other things of his that I read.

But with ASM maybe it doesn't matter. It seems like Editorial has a strong grip on that title.

Yeah. The editorial office are the actual writers...so I expect nothing but mediocrity until the current editorial is gone.

[FFJamie94]

Reading these comments make me think we need more ai.
Not to write stuff, but just to be an audience.

Like yeah, the Zeb Wells run isn’t good, why are you still moaning about it?
You know the next run won’t be any good. Why do you keep hurting yourself?

For the past like 10 years, I’ve seen the same **** get talked about Spider-Man, it’s to the point it’s tiring.
There’s literally so many Spider-Man books out there, forget amazing.
It’s not the book you want anymore

[Frontier]

That's a depressing thought. ASM desperately needs new blood. And while Duggan could potentially be that... I can't really get excited by that idea based on other things of his that I read.

But with ASM maybe it doesn't matter. It seems like Editorial has a strong grip on that title.

I can't think of who else would really do it, especially with Duggan wrapping up his current books unless he's jumping ship to DC. But he's shown an affinity for Spidey before.

Jed Mackay is busy between Avengers, X-Men, and his street-level/magic books.

Al Ewing has Immortal Thor (and maybe more DC stuff) and I doubt he wants to work with the Spider-Office.

I don't know if Donny Cates is ready to get back into Big Two stuff.

Hickman has Ultimate Spider-Man.

Unless they lure in a writer from DC or Independent...not sure who else would seem viable for ASM.

That is if the writer even matters because, like you say, editorial seems heavily involved in the book right now.

[Garlador]

That is if the writer even matters because, like you say, editorial seems heavily involved in the book right now.

The best writer in the world won't mean anything if editorial restrictions choke the fun, creativity, and originality out of a title. Until they're ready to "move forward", we all will just be spinning our wheels for the next temporary, frustrating event.

[Daibhidh]

To be fair, that's pretty consistent in comics. How many times has Tony or even Ollie Queen lost absolutely everything for it to magically be back under a new writer?

I think it's easier to get back a fortune that you've lost than it is to start from scratch.
(There's also a panel in one of Bendis' Avengers where Luke Cage asks Tony whether he isn't broke and Tony says that his broke is not the same as other people's broke - which shows a degree of perceptiveness that is often lacking in people the very wealthy.)

[Huntsman Spider]

Reading these comments make me think we need more ai.
Not to write stuff, but just to be an audience.

Like yeah, the Zeb Wells run isn’t good, why are you still moaning about it?
You know the next run won’t be any good. Why do you keep hurting yourself?

For the past like 10 years, I’ve seen the same **** get talked about Spider-Man, it’s to the point it’s tiring.
There’s literally so many Spider-Man books out there, forget amazing.
It’s not the book you want anymore

The problem is that Marvel has for decades marketed Amazing as the main book to read for Peter Parker's continuing story, so they should want it to be performing as highly as possible in terms of quality. That's on them being so hidebound and hellbent on a status quo that hardly anyone really likes if it isn't.

[Crazyspideyfan]

I agree 100%. The sad thing about ASM is it is not just Wells who is guilty. I made a comment during the Spencer run referring to Spider-Man getting killed by the Stacy Twins over and over as “Torture Porn.” I simply do not understand why Lowe and Marvel enjoy bad things happening to Peter. He is their most popular and profitable character and they treat him like dirt.

I completely forgot about that, that was gruesome, they also snapped his neck when he asked them to kill him instead of the other Spiders and basically kept him in purgatory of reliving BND I wish they dived more into Peter’s mental health after being killed and revived that many times, it broke Ben when Jackal did it lol although he did it a bit more

[exile001]

Like yeah, the Zeb Wells run isn’t good, why are you still moaning about it?
You know the next run won’t be any good. Why do you keep hurting yourself?

For the past like 10 years, I’ve seen the same **** get talked about Spider-Man, it’s to the point it’s tiring.
There’s literally so many Spider-Man books out there, forget amazing.
It’s not the book you want anymore

I find it really odd that some of the people on here, who despise everything post OMD, are still PAYING for the thing they hate. Like, even saying it's your hobby or habit, it's really sad at this point to be hate buying (which just tells Marvel they're doing a good job) when there's a world of awesome comics out there. Go buy those instead!

Want to keep up? Just browse the a thread to pick up what's going on (say, the last part of Gang War) and move on with your day. That's what I do.