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    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    The real question is why King didn't make the Sovereign a religious themed villain from the start. His religious angle is far more interesting and insidious than the political one.
    Kinda been leaning towards it from the start. Hes been pretty regularly been referencing 'the divine right of kings' and the notion that his family rule over America because god said their more than the common man.

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    I really enjoyed this issue...
    Don't you feel the tension? do you feel the anguish? Didn't you feel liberated when Diana broke the lasso and grabbed the Sovereign by the neck?
    Also the scenes with the Wonder Girls and Hyppolita... oh yeah, what a wonderful issue.
    And thank you Sampere, you really make a difference.

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    Great issue, powerful epic stuff seeing Diana break free of the lies and gripping Sovy's vulture neck.

    Wonder whats Sovy's plan now. Maybe he has a contingency lie beneath the fantasy, a secret trigger to be activated later.

    Also the Wonder Girls bullying Steel is hilarious, man certainly deserves it.

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    Will say though, without the art quality and the colouring difference between the lies and reality, this issue would not have landed as hard for me

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    This was nice.



    Though with DC I'm sure there's a Shazam or Teen Titans books that will namedrop Daddy Zeus and undo this.

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    First half dragged a bit, second half was good. I even found myself smiling.

    Also is Sovereign finally gonna STFU now?

    Also the Wonder Girls torturing Steel was funny.
    ~I just keep swimming through these threads~

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    Honestly feels like the Big Two are too scared for overtly religious themed villains nowadays; since when have the Purifiers shown up in X-Men?

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    I didn't like it, basically it was Wonder Woman telling me my God isn't real and I'm foolish for believing in Him. I know that's not true, and it also seemed needlessly blasphemous, especially coming from a fictional character. I'm stopping here before I start witnessing and come off like some novice religious nut. lol


    Too late! I know. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koriand'r View Post
    I didn't like it, basically it was Wonder Woman telling me my God isn't real and I'm foolish for believing in Him. I know that's not true, and it also seemed needlessly blasphemous, especially coming from a fictional character. I'm stopping here before I start witnessing and come off like some novice religious nut. lol


    Too late! I know. lol
    Now from what I gotten from this is she doesn’t believe in the god he supports. I don’t think it’s the same one we all support either. His views are very off…

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    The art was terrific though. Sampere was great as always, but the small coloring touches made it stand out from other issues. The way the sunlight dappled through the trees to cast shadows of leaves on Yara, the cosmetics overload, and the harsh flatness of the pastel sequences only on certain items, like Steve's tie and Diana's headband were all amazing. But to nitpick Yara's costume isn't drawn right (the belt should be higher and the breastplate's bottom point lower) and the randomness of the tiara's star placement bothers me. Other artists make it sit perfectly in the "v".



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    So even though the Sovereign holds all the levers of power and Presidents bow to him, the boat steadily sails in the opposite direction to where the Captain's steering it, away from its intended destination. And for some reason this is the story that ex-CIA dude wants to tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis-Ray View Post
    Great issue, powerful epic stuff seeing Diana break free of the lies and gripping Sovy's vulture neck.

    Wonder whats Sovy's plan now. Maybe he has a contingency lie beneath the fantasy, a secret trigger to be activated later.
    That would fit with the solicit for issue #9:

    REUNITED WITH STEVE TREVOR! The ultimate test! As Sovereign's grip on Wonder Woman's psyche tightens, she retreats into the arms of Steve Trevor. Will their love for the ages prove victorious over the web of Amazon lies weaved in Man's World? Plus, Trinity lets the dogs out!
    Could be an attempt to address the whole "Does Diana being with a man invalidate her" discussion.

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    So Marvel did the Outer Circle. And DC does the Sovereign. Ehhhh weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    If I had a nickel for every time Diana was stuck in a retro fantasy as a housewife with Steve Trevor...I'd actually have a few nickels. But the dress was nice.
    Cute shoes too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    This was nice.



    Though with DC I'm sure there's a Shazam or Teen Titans books that will namedrop Daddy Zeus and undo this.
    Just so long as it happens in a diff book we can pretend it didn't happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koriand'r View Post
    The art was terrific though. Sampere was great as always, but the small coloring touches made it stand out from other issues. The way the sunlight dappled through the trees to cast shadows of leaves on Yara, the cosmetics overload, and the harsh flatness of the pastel sequences only on certain items, like Steve's tie and Diana's headband were all amazing. But to nitpick Yara's costume isn't drawn right (the belt should be higher and the breastplate's bottom point lower) and the randomness of the tiara's star placement bothers me. Other artists make it sit perfectly in the "v".
    While I really do like Yara as a character, I've never quite loved her suit. Maybe this is why...
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