Who does The Kingpin hate more?

[HypnoHustler]

He sees Peter more as a toy. Maybe he truly hates him after the beating he copped from him in ‘Back in Black’ (does he even remember it?), but DD definitely wins the hatestakes for Kingy.

[Jman27]

He sees Peter more as a toy. Maybe he truly hates him after the beating he copped from him in ‘Back in Black’ (does he even remember it?), but DD definitely wins the hatestakes for Kingy.

is Back in Black even in canon due to OMD?

[Huntsman Spider]

He sees Peter more as a toy. Maybe he truly hates him after the beating he copped from him in ‘Back in Black’ (does he even remember it?), but DD definitely wins the hatestakes for Kingy.

is Back in Black even in canon due to OMD?

Still happened, he just doesn't remember because he doesn't remember knowing that Spider-Man is Peter Parker. Given how he reacted when he relearned Daredevil's secret identity back in Devil's Reign . . .

[Nero]

Unquestionably, Daredevil.

What started out as a typical clash between a vigilante and mobster has become an absolute blood feud between Daredevil and the Kingpin.

[Huntsman Spider]

Unquestionably, Daredevil.

What started out as a typical clash between a vigilante and mobster has become an absolute blood feud between Daredevil and the Kingpin.

And hell, I'm still somewhat haunted by Ed Brubaker's handling of it, that a dying Vanessa Fisk manipulated them both into a position where they'd be at each other's throats for the rest of their lives, because she thought that was what they deserved for ruining/destroying her family or something like that.

[Nero]

And hell, I'm still somewhat haunted by Ed Brubaker's handling of it, that a dying Vanessa Fisk manipulated them both into a position where they'd be at each other's throats for the rest of their lives, because she thought that was what they deserved for ruining/destroying her family or something like that.

I remember that. The way Vanessa weaponized the animosity both Daredevil and the Kingpin had for one another was definitely noteworthy. The irony in having Vanessa use tactics out of the Kingpin's playbook to make her point was great storytelling on Ed Brubaker's part.

[Huntsman Spider]

I remember that. The way Vanessa weaponized the animosity both Daredevil and the Kingpin had for one another was definitely noteworthy. The irony in having Vanessa use tactics out of the Kingpin's playbook to make her point was great storytelling on Ed Brubaker's part.

Indeed, it was.

[Coatl]

And hell, I'm still somewhat haunted by Ed Brubaker's handling of it, that a dying Vanessa Fisk manipulated them both into a position where they'd be at each other's throats for the rest of their lives, because she thought that was what they deserved for ruining/destroying her family or something like that.

Well that would be one of those plots that I got hard to understand. Because for all Daredevil and Wilson actions, she was the one who ruined her own family. Since she was the one who shoot her son and as far as I can see in the comic she still thinks was "the right" desition. She is basically being angry for something that happened while Wilson was unconsious and Matt didn't even was involved at all. Yes of course they fight a lot but why blame Murdock when Kingping has feuds with a lot of heroes and a few villains.

[Huntsman Spider]

Well that would be one of those plots that I got hard to understand. Because for all Daredevil and Wilson actions, she was the one who ruined her own family. Since she was the one who shoot her son and as far as I can see in the comic she still thinks was "the right" desition. She is basically being angry for something that happened while Wilson was unconsious and Matt didn't even was involved at all. Yes of course they fight a lot but why blame Murdock when Kingping has feuds with a lot of heroes and a few villains.

Point, though she probably blamed Matt as much as Fisk because it was the most personal between them, especially given what went down in Born Again.

[Coatl]

Point, though she probably blamed Matt as much as Fisk because it was the most personal between them, especially given what went down in Born Again.

Well then I think that answers the wuention of Who Kingping hates more. Between them it's personal and they have a lot of history.

[Huntsman Spider]

Well then I think that answers the wuention of Who Kingping hates more. Between them it's personal and they have a lot of history.

Extremely personal, yeah.

[K7P5V]

Well then I think that answers the wuention of Who Kingping hates more. Between them it's personal and they have a lot of history.

Extremely personal, yeah.

Agreed. As mentioned, Born Again solidified it...

[Huntsman Spider]

Agreed. As mentioned, Born Again solidified it...

"Excellent work, Kingpin . . . you shouldn't have signed it."

[Daibhidh]

As of this post, nobody has answered Spider-man even as a troll. Is this a record for polls on the internet?

[Darthfury78]

According to John Romita, Sr. The Kingpin was always meant to be a Daredevil antagonist. Not Spider-Man.