Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Bendis posted this on his tumblr. A Steve Rude painting on the classic superhero fight, Sub-Mariner vs Human Torch.
Great image, but I can't believe Steve Rude left off Namor's wings!
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Does Marvel consider Namor or the original android Human Torch as its first superhero? Is it a tie between them?
Or does that honor go to another character?
Or does Marvel not even recognize any one character as its Big Bang the way that DC does Superman?
Because if any of those oldest characters represents how Marvel is different from DC, it's very clearly the Sub-Mariner, IMHO.
Just wondering if Namor has ever gotten that distinction, either in-story or IRL publishing.
The first parody made me cringe, the second one even more! I also read the comments people leave on youtube which were pretty much about how much Namor sucks and how great Aquaman is but one in particular said " how the tables have turned" which is exactly the effect of this movie. I saw the Aquaman movie yesterday and it was great! The truth is the characters are so similar DC might have claimed the concept by taking it to screen first and leaving Marvel not even wanting to try. That's my worst fear. But if Marvel does a period piece like Captain America it can be different and unique enough as the Submariner was a highly popular character at that time with as much as three different comic book title appearances.
I'm not saying the characters are similar because in truth they are quite different but the aspects of being an aquatic hero and the connection with Atlantis which Namor claimed first in the comics. One key difference is that while Aquaman was raised on the surface and feels more like a human, Namor was raised on Atlantis and feels more like an Atlantean, which makes him a total outsider in the audience's view plus Namor's hot hotheadedness and temper, that Aquaman lacks.
Last edited by Thor-El; 12-22-2018 at 09:14 AM.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
I have to agree with you 100% there.
I'm not sure if Marvel does so... At least not until Busiek's and Ross' MARVELS, in which it pretty much states the first Marvels are Namor AND Torch.
Though, for the Marvel most of us know, the one that started in the Silver Age, I'd have to say, the Fantastic Four is probably the Big Bang originator.
They have recently. Because James Robinson considers Jim Hammond first, and may have presented it as such in the Invaders run, but he's ignoring the facts.
1) Namor is the older character. He appeared first in Motion Picture Funnies Weekly in April, I believe. The Marvel Comics #1 story is actually a reprint with four new pages added.
2) Namor is the older character. He was born in the 1920s. Torch was born in 1939. ;p
3) Most importantly, Saga of Sub-Mariner #1 states it outright in the banner of the splash page, that Namor is Marvel's First Superhero.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Glad to hear another positive review! And yes, there's plenty of difference between the two characters that could be explored, if Marvel would wise up.
You know what's really sad? Because of Marvel's game / merchandise / cartoon embargo, Kimmel's "Namor" is the most national exposure Namor has gotten since his 1960s cartoon. More people have seen Kimmel's "Namor" than have probably read Namor in a comic in the last decade, maybe two decades, combined. Thank you so very much, Marvel.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
I have always thought Namor to be the first Marvel superhero and the first antihero in comics. Yet if you want to say who was the first just plain hero you could say Torch since he isn't an anti-hero like Namor, but yeah Namor was totally first with a ton of stuff not just being Marvel's first.
-First comic book royalty
-First marvel super hero character edit: sorry he was a timely character when he was first introduced
-First comic anti-hero
-First Mutant
-First Underwater hero/water breathing character/royal of Atlantis
-First biracial super hero character in comics
-First superhero to fly (superman flew way later than Namor)
-First to be featured fighting Nazis on the cover of his comic
I mean parody's are meant to poke fun and honestly I was just ok with this even though I agree it was really cringy. People who say that really just don't know the character and this parody does make him look like a joke, which is what had been happening for years to Aquaman, but now that aquaman has adopted alot of Namor's quailties/look suddenly he is a bad ass and Namor is the joke? I'm trying to shrug it off because I'm really sick of the whole aquaman vs namor thing at this point but it won't ever really die down. :/
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"No one should ever question where my allegiance lies." - Namor of Atlantis
I'll have to dig around and see if I can find that splash page from Saga of the Sub-Mariner.
Yes, it was cringy in some places, but I LOLed at some of it too. But I like Hembeck and Marie Severin's parody's too. Granted, those are probably done with more love than Kimmel's. Or maybe not. Maybe this is Kimmel's way of reminding people that Marvel has the aquatic superhero?
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Lol yeah some it was funny, and I know which page you are talking about, its in small print near the top of the splash page in issue 1 of saga of the sub-mariner:
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Which honestly I really liked Saga of the Sub-Mariner and I tend to rec it to any newbies who want a quick history lesson on Namor. There was this other comic I just read the other day, from Weapon X (2002) #14 where Mister Sinster watches Namor take down an enemy sub he was on since he was on the Nazi side and was so wowed by him that he gets some of Namor's blood to make a clone who faces off against the Invaders. It's like Namor's villains are always amazed by him and his abilities. lol
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'there were none fitter than the savage sub-mariner' is a line in there. lol it's true.
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"No one should ever question where my allegiance lies." - Namor of Atlantis
I checked out that sale they are having on comixology but I really didn't see much Namor comics up for grabs? I might get the Depth because I really love that comic and would like a physical copy. The art was very good and I love the whole look of Namor and how he was thought a myth, and is protector of Atlantis
"No one should ever question where my allegiance lies." - Namor of Atlantis
That's it! And I do the same. It's a great introduction, IMO, told in Namor's own voice!
I've always loved those pages. It's nice to see Namor appreciated. Even if it is only for his genes. LOL! However, it does annoy me somewhat, that they never even acknowledged their prior meeting in Gillen's X-Men. Of course, the X-office refused to do the same with Namor and Dr. Nemesis -- which was even worse, since that would have been an epic of snark.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Last edited by Reviresco; 12-22-2018 at 07:53 PM.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?