What are your ideas for a Crisis-type story to bridge the DCU and New 52?

[blunt_eastwood]

I always thought it was weird that there was no Crisis-type story to serve as an in-universe bridge from the DCU continuity to the New 52 one. I don't really consider Flashpoint to serve as a bridge because the main plot of the story had nothing to do with the transition and just threw in Pandora and the resetting of the timeline completely randomly.

Plus, given all of the plots and ideas that had been introduced that could have tied into this story, not having another Crisis story act as bridge seemed like a huge waste. Below I listed some of the things that could have been used, but I'm curious to know what kind of ideas you guys might have for a story like this.

-Darkseid could return seeking vengeance after Final Crisis
-The multiverse is back, which according to the original Crisis is what caused the need for a single Earth in the first place
-Barry Allen is back
-The Anti-monitor is somehow resurrected

[MykeHavoc]

I initially had an idea where the characters everyone was clamoring for (Wally, Donna, Cass, Stephanie etc.) Found themselves on an empty earth with no idea of what happened. They would figure out a way to get to the New 52 Earth 0, but with no one remembering them, and their very presence creating some sort of paradox that could destroy existence, they are regarded as hostile. I thought there'd be a lot to explore story wise, but now that most have been introduced, its rather a moot point.

[Sirzechs]

Definitely no that would cause more problems given that all of what you list exist in the new 52 multiverse and i don't want it go back just one universe that just squash creative ideas.

[Buried Alien]

Though not a favorite of mine, FLASHPOINT did a fairly effective job (in a single two-page spread) of getting us from Point A to Point B in terms of moving from the previous DCU to the New 52 DCU (certainly much more clear cut than the events between COIE # 10 and the actual reboots of various characters that rolled out piecemeal over the next three years).

The construction of the New 52 mythos in the months and years have followed, however, has proven just as dicey as the Post-COIE construction of the DCU.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[blunt_eastwood]

Definitely no that would cause more problems given that all of what you list exist in the new 52 multiverse and i don't want it go back just one universe that just squash creative ideas.

What are you talking about ? I didn't say anything about going back to anything.

Though not a favorite of mine, FLASHPOINT did a fairly effective job (in a single two-page spread) of getting us from Point A to Point B in terms of moving from the previous DCU to the New 52 DCU (certainly much more clear cut than the events between COIE # 10 and the actual reboots of various characters that rolled out piecemeal over the next three years).

The construction of the New 52 mythos in the months and years have followed, however, has proven just as dicey as the Post-COIE construction of the DCU.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Really? But with COIE there was at least an actual reason for the reboot that was a part of the main plot, while with Flashpoint it has little to no bearing on anything in that story.

[Buried Alien]

Really? But with COIE there was at least an actual reason for the reboot that was a part of the main plot, while with Flashpoint it has little to no bearing on anything in that story.

That doesn't matter much to me; Barry and Thawne's personal dispute opened a door that other forces (e.g. Pandora) exploited to create the New 52 DCU. At some point, however, I would be interested in seeing the reason that Pandora caused this to happen.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[GlennSimpson]

Honestly, I would have rather preferred they simply relaunch and renumber without tying some sort of event into it at all. Now we have to talk about "how could changing the timeline cause this?" and "What is the post-Flashpoint version of Flashpoint" and all that crap, when it could have just been an editorial/publishing thing - "we were doing this, now we're doing that" - rather like the Star Wars Extended Universe getting downgraded and the new canon coming along.

[MajorHoy]

They probably didn't want much of a bridge because then even more people would explain how it was their escape hatch in case the New 52 didn't work out.

[steeplejack2112]

Nobody needs one. The New 52 is perfect and there doesn't need to be any explaining anything. Just ask anyone in here. They'll tell you.

[mars]

Honestly, I would have rather preferred they simply relaunch and renumber without tying some sort of event into it at all. Now we have to talk about "how could changing the timeline cause this?" and "What is the post-Flashpoint version of Flashpoint" and all that crap, when it could have just been an editorial/publishing thing - "we were doing this, now we're doing that" - rather like the Star Wars Extended Universe getting downgraded and the new canon coming along.

Totally agree with this. If you feel everything needs to be reset to fix things, then just do it.

[mars]

The New 52 is perfect

They cancelled Demon Knights and Frankenstein!

[steeplejack2112]

They cancelled Demon Knights and Frankenstein!

And also Firestorm and the Legion....but just remember....it's soooooooooooo much better than what was. Oh wait....there was nothing before the New 52 I guess. Never mind.

[BohemiaDrinker]

Honestly, I would have rather preferred they simply relaunch and renumber without tying some sort of event into it at all. Now we have to talk about "how could changing the timeline cause this?" and "What is the post-Flashpoint version of Flashpoint" and all that crap, when it could have just been an editorial/publishing thing - "we were doing this, now we're doing that" - rather like the Star Wars Extended Universe getting downgraded and the new canon coming along.

Theoretically, DC could do that just by changing Earths. They have a multiverse, after all.

[Buried Alien]

Theoretically, DC could do that just by changing Earths. They have a multiverse, after all.

...with only 52 parallel universes, and it looks like MULTIVERSITY will define all of them by the time it's over. It remains to be seen if any of them will host past mainstream iterations of the DCU (probably not).

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[ImprobableQuestion]

That doesn't matter much to me; Barry and Thawne's personal dispute opened a door that other forces (e.g. Pandora) exploited to create the New 52 DCU. At some point, however, I would be interested in seeing the reason that Pandora caused this to happen.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

She mentioned something at the end of Flashpoint about doing it to prevent some great evil from coming. I guess another question is, was the Pandora from Flashpoint the same as the New 52 Pandora?