Nothing like the opening shot of Manson. Had me crackin up the entire time. The poetry was hysterical too.
Nothing like the opening shot of Manson. Had me crackin up the entire time. The poetry was hysterical too.
Man, how many episodes we got left?
Man they seem to be really trying to highlight how close Chibs and Jax have become. I worried for Chibs in the coming episodes. Anyway I don't see this show ending anyway but with Jax dead or in Jail. Same for Gemma. While Wendy raises the Kids with Nero on a farm lol. They kinda had moments Nero and Wendy. Guess the last few episodes will tell us.
We can take solace in the fact Clay is dead..we were spared having to see his ass in the opening sex montage.
It's on her, but it's also on Jax. Consider that they would of never gotten to a point Gemma would want to kill Tara if not for Jax. I don't think anyone can say there is no blood on his hands. Gemma just made it 1,000 times worse by trying to give a credible account of who would kill Tara. Blaming the Chinese makes more sense then a random junkie just happening across Tara right when they were about to get free of all the BS.
Being family isn't a good excuse, because in this case it essentially involves sitting there and watching your family burn. Part of being family means telling someone when they need to get their **** together. Also, Jax enabled Tig to avenge his daughter, but don't think for a second he did that because he cared about Tig. It was convenient for him, he needed to get rid of Pope, and at the same time he could essentially make Tig loyal to him for life. The whole reason Tig was in that mess is because Jax lied to the club about who shot Clay.I'm not surprised the Club stayed at his side. We've seen it demonstrated time and again, they are a family. Hell, it was Jax who enabled Tig to avenge his daughter. Hurt their family, and they hurt you back a hundred times worse.
Last edited by Surtur; 11-13-2014 at 04:16 PM.
Agreed.
There's no end of blood on Jax's hands, but not Tara's. He loved her, and that was no secret. The problem's always been that gemma thinks she should have more influence, more say, than she deserves.
Well, they are a family, but also violent sociopaths
I think Jax did and does honestly care about Tig (though Opie was a part of that too, I bet). Violent revenge for wrongs against them has the Sons' MO since episode one. I'm hard pressed to think of an unavenged attack on their friends or family (though Otto's due came pretty damn late)
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I'd also point out that lying about Clay's shooting was done in part to save the Club. Without the Clay, they'd have lost the Irish guns, and the DEA would have crushed them.
Last edited by The Cool Thatguy; 11-13-2014 at 08:59 PM.
Also hate to say it..kind of good thing Bobby bit the dust too, I don't want to be seeing that. Still RIP Bobby though. Gemma needs to die because of Bobby, if not anything else.
Oh I won't ever say Jax didn't love Tara, he did, but his actions lead to her death. Inadvertently on his part of course, but it's just the **** storm that has been his life. Ever since he started trying to get the club away from the really shady ****..it actually just made things a whole lot worse. Jax now is more or less no better then Clay was.There's no end of blood on Jax's hands, but not Tara's. He loved her, and that was no secret. The problem's always been that gemma thinks she should have more influence, more say, than she deserves.
I do think Jax cares about Tig, but I just feel that his allowing Tig to avenge his daughter was more of a happy accident then anything else. I think it was mainly about Pope. Especially think about how that all went down..if the timing wasn't just right Tig could of been killed too when Pope was killed.I think Jax did and does honestly care about Tig (though Opie was a part of that too, I bet). Violent revenge for wrongs against them has the Sons' MO since episode one. I'm hard pressed to think of an unavenged attack on their friends or family (though Otto's due came pretty damn late)
I get that, I won't say Jax was ever just going to lie to someone for the shits and giggles, but it was still his lies nonetheless. See Jax thought Clay was just a greedy thug who didn't want to get out of the business they were in. He was of course right, but he also didn't realize what Clay did..in that it would be extremely hard to get out of this life.I'd also point out that lying about Clay's shooting was done in part to save the Club. Without the Clay, they'd have lost the Irish guns, and the DEA would have crushed them.
The irony at the end of the day is Jax might even be worse then Clay merely because of the fact that he doesn't see himself as being as bad as Clay. It's hard to say if Jax really believes his "noble biker" crap.
Last edited by Surtur; 11-14-2014 at 12:10 PM.
I hate the new Uncer with all his morals and whatnot
Well, looks like they finally go the last of the Mohicans.
The un written bi law??? Blacks not being allowed in the club?
Ron Pearlman should come back to life in the season finale