Wonder Woman on Justice League Unlimited, by Mark Waid and Dan Mora

[Frontier]

Thanks! I have never followed the GL books, but I assumed that she was still one of the bad guys.

Yeah, she's been good pretty much since the Johns GL run.

[Rightoya]

Well every time when Wonder Woman does extremely well in some way, DC apparently either has to screw it up and do nothing with that for years, or outright try to sabotage her again

[Mantis-Ray]

Well every time when Wonder Woman does extremely well in some way, DC apparently either has to screw it up and do nothing with that for years, or outright try to sabotage her again

She's on the JL roster all the time, there is nothing notable about this.

[Garrac]

She's on the JL roster all the time, there is nothing notable about this.

Btw, I can't really tell a single time where a JLA plot with WW ended up being relevant for a WW plot on her regular series, so this is very telling Id say.

Even PLASTIC MAN got some.

[Stanlos]

It's JLU, name a hero and they can eventually appear .

The key phrase is hero though, no??

[Stanlos]

She hasn't been one for a while.

Ooooooooooh. Well at least there's that.

[SiegePerilous02]

Btw, I can't really tell a single time where a JLA plot with WW ended up being relevant for a WW plot on her regular series, so this is very telling Id say.

Even PLASTIC MAN got some.

You can say this for all the big name JL characters, it's not unique to her.

[Garrac]

You can say this for all the big name JL characters, it's not unique to her.

Actually not since Batman owes a lot to the JLA, and every JLA story with Superman allways runs over the risk of becoming a Superman story with side characters. Alltho, granted, I can't recall the series giving anything to Green Lantern or Flash, so you got a point here.

[SiegePerilous02]

Actually not since Batman owes a lot to the JLA, and every JLA story with Superman allways runs over the risk of becoming a Superman story with side characters. Alltho, granted, I can't recall the series giving anything to Green Lantern or Flash, so you got a point here.

What does Batman owe the JLA? They don't spill over into his titles, sometimes to a distracting degree (No Mans Land).

What's an example in the comics of that happening with Superman?

[Gaius]

Btw, I can't really tell a single time where a JLA plot with WW ended up being relevant for a WW plot on her regular series, so this is very telling Id say.

Even PLASTIC MAN got some.

As it should. Current run getting put on hold to tie in to Waid's nonsense is bad enough already.

Hopefully Waid knows his place, sticks to his lane, and writes League stories we can all blissfully ignore.

[Mantis-Ray]

As it should. Current run getting put on hold to tie in to Waid's nonsense is bad enough already.

Hopefully Waid knows his place, sticks to his lane, and writes League stories we can all blissfully ignore.

To be somewhat fair, AP is an event not an ongoing, the former is what typically drags other runs into being involved and would have happened without Waid's involvement. Chip Zdarsky, Tom Taylor, or even Tom King figured out how to make the story work before Waid we would be complaining about them dragging WW into an event.

So unless JLU leads to some kind of event presumably it will stay in its lane. Its what happened with the Bryan Hitch run, and that featured stuff like Barry and Jessica Cruz getting it on or their's and Wonder Woman's future child showing up in the final arc. To note while the run was happening Barry over in the concurrent Flash run was busy reconfirming his live to Iris and the seriousness of their relationship, so JL indicating he has a thing for Jessica did not show up anywhere else.

[Gaius]

To be somewhat fair, AP is an event not an ongoing, the former is what typically drags other runs into being involved and would have happened without Waid's involvement. Chip Zdarsky, Tom Taylor, or even Tom King figured out how to make the story work before Waid we would be complaining about them dragging WW into an event.

So unless JLU leads to some kind of event presumably it will stay in its lane. Its what happened with the Bryan Hitch run, and that featured stuff like Barry and Jessica Cruz getting it on or their's and Wonder Woman's future child showing up in the final arc. To note while the run was happening Barry over in the concurrent Flash run was busy reconfirming his live to Iris and the seriousness of their relationship, so JL indicating he has a thing for Jessica did not show up anywhere else.

Yeah, obviously that’s it usually works.

Just her one book getting pit on hold, the annoying power levels stuff Waid reignited, and the awful tie-in issue just hasn’t left me enthused atm.

[Garrac]

What does Batman owe the JLA? They don't spill over into his titles, sometimes to a distracting degree (No Mans Land).

What's an example in the comics of that happening with Superman?

Well, to begin with th fact that the whole "Batman is God" motto actually comes from a JLA comic.

About Superman, you just gotta pick any arc starring him with a big focus: his Grant Morrison issues, Kingdom Come, a big chunk of the Joe Kelly run... Even Scott Snyder couldnt scape from this once he started focusing a bit on Superman.

Alltho, this JLU seems to be a series about the more minor characters of the DCU, so theres hope for dodging the waid-bullet.

[SiegePerilous02]

Well, to begin with th fact that the whole "Batman is God" motto actually comes from a JLA comic.

About Superman, you just gotta pick any arc starring him with a big focus: his Grant Morrison issues, Kingdom Come, a big chunk of the Joe Kelly run... Even Scott Snyder couldnt scape from this once he started focusing a bit on Superman.

Alltho, this JLU seems to be a series about the more minor characters of the DCU, so theres hope for dodging the waid-bullet.

Batman as God didn't translate over into any specific arcs in his main solo books. Aside from the JL occasionally guest starring, but they guest starred or were referenced in Wonder Woman in the Perez, Jimenez and Rucka runs.

Morrison's JL stories didn't crossover into the Super books, even if Superman got some focus in the JL stories. Kelly wrote both JLA and Superman, but the only arc I can recall from that run was Golden Perfect focused on Diana. Nothing that impacted the Bat or Super books originated from JLA. Wonder Woman doesn't get any new major additions to her mythos from her Justice League membership, but neither do they.

[Garrac]

Batman as God didn't translate over into any specific arcs in his main solo books. Aside from the JL occasionally guest starring, but they guest starred or were referenced in Wonder Woman in the Perez, Jimenez and Rucka runs.

Morrison's JL stories didn't crossover into the Super books, even if Superman got some focus in the JL stories. Kelly wrote both JLA and Superman, but the only arc I can recall from that run was Golden Perfect focused on Diana. Nothing that impacted the Bat or Super books originated from JLA. Wonder Woman doesn't get any new major additions to her mythos from her Justice League membership, but neither do they.

All of these mentioned cases, on Batman and Superman, were seriously affected by their JLA runs. No one was going hard on trying to use the Superman Silver Age references, or to make Batman stand more on the DC ecosystem, until Morrison's run, for examples. It translates to more things than just direct references, of which there also are some.

Wonder Woman, by the other side, didnt even get her blind run during Rucka's tenure recognised. Cant remember if the writers at the time even cared.