You have a really odd definition of "murky".
I am not saying that Hulk is supersonic, I'm saying he has speed feats that make pegging his speed difficult. There's one panel I've found that has him clocked by a cop at something like 470 MPH. 320 is another speed that's floated often with Hulk, as is 100 MPH. It's murky, because it is hard to resolve. He clearly has more than human running speed in Indestructible, as he has several scenes where he is being drawn as a blur of color rather than a figure. There are plenty of comics where he crosses Continents and Oceans at speeds rivaling jets.
Again, read that post. See the part where I say that it isn't valid? I'm just pointing out that absolutes are bad when you're talking about a character with 50+ years of history. There will always be a story where the character does something (like Hulk tagging Spiderman, or Quicksilver) that they shouldn't be able to do. Saying something like "Hulk has never done x" is just creating a false history. That's what I am objecting to.
Not really hard to resolve at all, honestly. You're just choosing to be difficult.
By jumping. Travel speed is irrelevant. Thor has FTL travel speed anyway. Hulk even loses that.He clearly has more than human running speed in Indestructible, as he has several scenes where he is being drawn as a blur of color rather than a figure. There are plenty of comics where he crosses Continents and Oceans at speeds rivaling jets.
No. They're not.Again, read that post. See the part where I say that it isn't valid? I'm just pointing out that absolutes are bad when you're talking about a character with 50+ years of history. There will always be a story where the character does something (like Hulk tagging Spiderman, or Quicksilver) that they shouldn't be able to do. Saying something like "Hulk has never done x" is just creating a false history. That's what I am objecting to.
Feats cosistent with his representation. In 50+ years of continuity, you've presented a handful of out feats for his speed, compared to the hundreds of feats against it. Consistent with his representation means that those hundreds of feats show that he's slow in everything but his travel speed.
It's actually really easy when you're unable to provide valid speed feats for a character, to not find pegging his speed especially difficult.I am not saying that Hulk is supersonic, I'm saying he has speed feats that make pegging his speed difficult.
Is any of that the Hulk even running? Or are we once again on him jumping.There's one panel I've found that has him clocked by a cop at something like 470 MPH. 320 is another speed that's floated often with Hulk, as is 100 MPH.
Travel time isn't reflex speed. And basically irrelevant. And for a guy claiming you're not trying to say the Hulk is supersonic, you sure do keep trying to say it.There are plenty of comics where he crosses Continents and Oceans at speeds rivaling jets.
To be accurate he's presented a handful of largely meaningless feats for his speed, along with some travel time performances.you've presented a handful of out feats for his speed
Say, can you benchmark "a blur of colour"? No? Then again, this is meaningless.He clearly has more than human running speed in Indestructible, as he has several scenes where he is being drawn as a blur of color rather than a figure.
Which isn't relevant at all to this board.
Problem with Hulk vs Thor is that Thor is always portrayed as an idiot in these fights.
He never uses any ability that goes beyond casual lightning or brawling and conveniently forgets his massive Speed Edge.
Not to talk about that Thor normally has a far higher Base Strength than Hulk and just lets the fight drag on until Hulk has overpowered him.
In a non-PIS battle, Thor would space-toss Hulk immidiately, or d-dump him, or open a portal to a Black Hole in his brain, or vaporise him with a God Blast from the Distance etc etc
Hell, Thor could just drain Hulk of his Gamma Energy with his hammer and be done with it.