Is there anything Scarlet Witch could do to redeem herself?

[Sea Hound]

An alternative approach to having her in an X-book, would be to put her in an Avengers book which has nothing to do with mutants. (Avengers? Avenger's World?) . Then revert her to her pre Bendis characterisation, and her fans could enjoy her, whilst X-fans could completely ignore her.
It wouldn't redeem her, but it wouldn't make things any worse either. Unlike Uncanny Avengers. Which has.

[blanchett]

She should leave the mansion and there should be a SCARLET WITCH title. She will never be redeemed in the Avengers book because the people handling the Avengers don't consider what she did genocide. For me she needs to lose what she had. She's living in luxury in a mansion in Manhattan with a butler. It doesn't quite reek of suffering to me. I would love to read a title with her trying to come terms with her actions and do good. She can't return to her old stomping grounds surrounding by her friends it's too easy for her.

[Omegastorm]

She should leave the mansion and there should be a SCARLET WITCH title. She will never be redeemed in the Avengers book because the people handling the Avengers don't consider what she did genocide. For me she needs to lose what she had. She's living in luxury in a mansion in Manhattan with a butler. It doesn't quite reek of suffering to me. I would love to read a title with her trying to come terms with her actions and do good. She can't return to her old stomping grounds surrounding by her friends it's too easy for her.

This is perfect. I think that she needs her book to examine that theme because it will only be explored on a casual or macro level in UA.

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[Bl00dwerK]

No. I think she should go full villian, obviously w/o the power to alter reality (but with the continued threat of it), and take on the X-Men in the next big event after AXIS...

[ROSA13]

if some tyran (Hitler, Stalin, etc) came back and said that he is mutant and his power drive him mad and he isn´t responsible for his past actions and want to be x-men, will they applay same measures as for Wanda? Don´t think so. I can´t accept that they should forgive her without any consequences. She was hero and if she steal something, or so, it will be accepatble that they forgive her and cover it, but something like that? Many deaths, many destroyed lives, extinction of whole race? she needs to pay. A nice little Avengers act called The Trial of the Scarlett Witch or something like that. She can try to plea insanity, as she rightfully should. But she has to be dealt with. I hope other will not be nice to her and that she will have a hard times if she came back into spotligthts. She deserve it, but obviously they take her back, but they shouldn´t forgive her.

[Sardorim]

The reason why they attacked Cyclops and co was because they would eventually go insane. They weren't omega level mutants, they would eventually go insane.

And when that happens, the Earth+Galaxy would have been in danger.

Plus they were acting like dictators. Dictators to a Utopia society, but dictators nonetheless. While killing/imprisoning all those that opposed them. How long would that have gone right?

You know who also gives out free energy and free healthcare on top of 0% unemployment while demanding unquestioned loyalty from his people?

Doom

So instead of thinking of a way to deal with the Phoenix they instead chose to attack Cyclops, and the rest of the P5, when they weren't doing anything but making the world a better place? Yeah... Great logic right there, huh?

If they really wanted a peaceful solution than they wouldn't have invaded and razed Utopia and they would have asked for Rachel's help. Nor would they have continued to provoke the Phoenix 5 with constant unprovoked and unwarranted attacked and forcing more and more Phoenix into the remaining Hosts until there was only 1 left.

Dictators? All they asked was that people not wage wars, treat each other with respect, and not commit horrible crimes and that those that do horrible things be punished. Beyond that they didn't care how the people lived their lives.

They aren't like Doom, they were mostly hands off beyond those things and instead spent their time helping make the planet a better place or fighting off unprovoked Avenger attacks against them.

Besides, Doom's people love him while the P5 were treated with suspicion and hate by the people and the Avengers when they asked for so little and only wanted to make a better world for everyone - even those that hate them.

[king of hybrids]

kill her and pietro (or cast them screaming into the void between universes), grab a younger (and more MCU resembling) version from one of the colapsing earths. now magneto can devote his attention on polaris and his grandkids instead of covering up for his collaborator kids, since the new twins have no connection to him.

[Sardorim]

Absolutely. She's visually fabulous and is mother to the most awesome man in the Marvel universe, so she deserves a second chance

All she has to do is:
a) stop treating geneocide as something people shouldn't hold against her
b) always stand-up and fight for mutant rights; but never tell mutants what they should and shouldn't do
c) stop treating geneocide as something people shouldn't hold against her
d) show contrition, apologies and NEVER get angry or aggressive if people don't accept it
e) and lastly, most importantly: STOP TREATING GENEOCIDE AS SOMETHING PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HOLD AGAINST HER




It's ALSO worth noting... that plan involved forcing everyone to take back their mutant powers (again making huge, life changing decisions for millions because SHE thinks it's the right thing, which does sort of imply she hadn't learnt her lesson the first time).

She didn't learn the third time either as she forced Mutantkind into the Apoc Twin's trap thus allowing Earth to be destroyed as the Apoc Twins only cared about Earth because there are Mutants on it and were betting on the Scarlet Witch to send all Mutants to them which she did.

[Galerion]

She could get on of those Men in Black flash devices and flash the whole world.

[PretenderNX01]

the people handling the Avengers don't consider what she did genocide.

Well let's see: gen·o·cide
ˈjenəˌsīd
noun the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

Turning mutants into humans isn't killing anyone, so yeah I think the g-word is getting tossed around in a way that demeans true genocides.

[king of hybrids]

the people who died from losing their powers may disagree

considering that marvel will probably make more off ticket sales and merch for age of ultron than all the post m-day, pre-AvX x-men comics put together... nothing will be done. because the comics (X or A) don't matter anymore

[CraigTheCylon]

Nope. X-Men fans hold grudges harder than Magneto*.

Wanda could spend the next 10 years crying, giving Cyclops voluntary BJs and only speaking using the words "I'm so sorry" and there'd still be a new thread yelling UGH GENOCIDE I WISH YOU DIED every two days at least.



* - For the record, Magneto is as much to blame for the Decimation as Wanda, IMO. Funny how he gets a free pass. Probably because 'something something nazis wahhh', like with everything else Erik-related.

[idiyona]

The reason why they attacked Cyclops and co was because they would eventually go insane. They weren't omega level mutants, they would eventually go insane.

And when that happens, the Earth+Galaxy would have been in danger.

Plus they were acting like dictators. Dictators to a Utopia society, but dictators nonetheless. While killing/imprisoning all those that opposed them. How long would that have gone right?

Well yeah, everyone would expect something with the Phoenix Force to go bad eventually. You'd think the smarter move would be to plan things out while they weren't going insane and observe and plan for when they did instead of just attacking and making things worse. There was a while the Phoenix 5 were pretty much in control and they were being attacked anyway. Hell Reed Richards argued against the Avengers attacking them on that basis. I will admit though that Namor getting the Phoenix Force, entirely the Avengers fault, is one of the dumbest things that could have happened without him even needing to go insane.

They imprisoned the Avengers after trying to ignore them but getting attacked over and over again. You make it sound like they were being imprisoning people for thought crimes. Also remind me who they killed again?

As for what could be done? A long and drawn out redemption arc involving herself in mutant-related issues where she actually admitted guilt for what she did/her part in the whole debacle instead of telling everyone to get over her nearly wiping out all mutants. She rather enjoys sitting in her ivory tower pretending mutants aren't a thing.

[Carabas]

It seems unfair to eternally hold an innocent fictional character responsible for the actions of her writer (who was only following Quesada's orders anyway).

It's not as if it was even a good story, worthy of remembering. It was barely a story at all. It was an editorial fiat to cut down on the number of mutants in the Marvel Universe.

[Runarc]

So instead of thinking of a way to deal with the Phoenix they instead chose to attack Cyclops, and the rest of the P5, when they weren't doing anything but making the world a better place? Yeah... Great logic right there, huh?

If they really wanted a peaceful solution than they wouldn't have invaded and razed Utopia and they would have asked for Rachel's help. Nor would they have continued to provoke the Phoenix 5 with constant unprovoked and unwarranted attacked and forcing more and more Phoenix into the remaining Hosts until there was only 1 left.

Dictators? All they asked was that people not wage wars, treat each other with respect, and not commit horrible crimes and that those that do horrible things be punished. Beyond that they didn't care how the people lived their lives.

They aren't like Doom, they were mostly hands off beyond those things and instead spent their time helping make the planet a better place or fighting off unprovoked Avenger attacks against them.

Besides, Doom's people love him while the P5 were treated with suspicion and hate by the people and the Avengers when they asked for so little and only wanted to make a better world for everyone - even those that hate them.

They attacked with the Scarlet Witch because they thought they stood a chance (which they didn't), no other reason really. All to prevent the phoenix meltdown that would happen eventually.

The razing of Utopia was badly thought through by the Avengers i'll admit (like really badly).

Although the fact that Cyclops didn't inform anyone that he had a Phoenix lightning rod on his meteor, and was trying to lure a Phoenix god of death over that was destroying planets as it moved towards Earth, was still the stupidest idea ever. Hope wasn't ready (canon, period), so had the Phoenix arrived she would have become something horrible.

The Avengers acted out of desperation (and like idiots), but Scott was never going to see reason anyway.

Scott was willing to cause AvX and threaten all live on Earth by gambling it on the skill of a 16 year old. One whom he had no way of knowing if she was ready (and she wasn't, canon). Just to get his mutant species back. He's a nutbag, and he deserves all the mistrust that comes to him. Even when he was one of the P5, for reasons mentioned above.