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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomuniverse View Post
    What crap? He left and then they tried to white wash it. Hilarious.



    Prison? Who can put her in prison and why would a Magneto ever allow that? Cyclops and the X men walked away and did nothing to her after all their threats.

    Cyclops tried to wipe out the planet after beating up his girlfriend and killing Xavier. Even tried to kill Magneto in his state...had no problem allowing Rogue and Carol be captured in limbo either.
    In your version of canon, yeah it might be true. Nice bait though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomuniverse View Post
    She tried that. Even tried to fix everything and it was working but Patriot and Doom messed it all up.
    what did she try?

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    Honestly there is nothing Wanda can do that the X-fans would accept, no matter what she did fans would still complain and say it isn't enough and have the pitchforks and torches out. So in all honesty I think her character is fine where she is now as a character not apologizing and begging for forgiveness because really even if she did X-fans wouldn't accept it anyway so what would be the point. Nothing marvel could write or do for Wanda involving a redemption story will make X-fans happy so really is there a point, I think marvel really just moved on from it because they no there is nothing they could do to please X-fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomuniverse View Post
    No. He left his wife and son IMMEDIATELY after he heard Jean was alive.
    Have you ever even read the story? Because that isn't how it went down...he left to go SEE Jean and promptly had a nervous breakdown...he didn't abandon Maddie and even tried to go back for her, still having the breakdown and even hallucinating at the time...he and Jean didn't actually get back together until after Fall of the Mutants when they saw Maddie and all the X-Men die circa X-Factor #26.

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    The reset button...Rictor wouldn't have his powers today if not for her but it was all messed up by more impulsive characters.

    Bait? Cyclops left his son for a woman. What in the world are u talking about? They knew they messed up too. Why Do U think they did The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSTowle View Post
    It's hard to blame the writers who came after for trying to craft stories from the crap parts they've been given. They could ignore or alter continuity (which would probably be best for fans and certainly be better for characters like Wanda/Cyclops/Beast/Stark/etc.), but a lot of this has been set down by the big guns at Marvel & DC. Bendis doesn't seem like he'd give a damn, but some of the other guys don't seem like they have that sense of humor (drowning in yellow liquids or kissing red things, that guy perhaps). Can't ignore it, have to do the best they can with what they've got.
    It sad funny because. Bendis was the one that started it Wanda in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Honestly there is nothing Wanda can do that the X-fans would accept, no matter what she did fans would still complain and say it isn't enough and have the pitchforks and torches out. So in all honesty I think her character is fine where she is now as a character not apologizing and begging for forgiveness because really even if she did X-fans wouldn't accept it anyway so what would be the point. Nothing marvel could write or do for Wanda involving a redemption story will make X-fans happy so really is there a point, I think marvel really just moved on from it because they no there is nothing they could do to please X-fans.
    Maybe because at least have an understanding with the mutant kind and Wanda would be a sign of redemption for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomuniverse View Post
    The reset button...Rictor wouldn't have his powers today if not for her but it was all messed up by more impulsive characters.
    why hasn't she tried again? she told the skull she could wipe out the mutants again if she had enough power. why isn't she spending her time finding a way to heal her victims instead of gallavanting off with the avengers?

    does she think one try was good enough?

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    I think Scarlet Witch will be in a better position after Axis. That storyline will help further her redemption arc. Then she will be in the Age of Ultron movie, which will raise the character's profile. She will get better writing because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmbmool View Post
    Maybe because at least have an understanding with the mutant kind and Wanda would be a sign of redemption for me.
    For you maybe but have you read these boards the last few months, these fans would never accept it maybe a few fans would then but honestly not many and not enough to do the story.

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    Nope. Not at this stage.

    I had some hope with the Children's Crusade mini but...that turned out to so much shittery.

    She is better off simply acknowledging her wrong-doing, accepting responsibility (no matter wot Doom says) showing remorse and moving on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesX1X View Post
    why hasn't she tried again? she told the skull she could wipe out the mutants again if she had enough power. why isn't she spending her time finding a way to heal her victims instead of gallavanting off with the avengers?

    does she think one try was good enough?
    She doesn't have that kind of power anymore though. To pull off the mass teleportation stunt in UA she had to use up all of Wonder Man's energy to get it to work. If she wanted to try and heal all the original mutants that are still without their powers she'd have to actually look for another power source that she could use to accomplish that with. And I don't think anybody, either in the MU or the actually readership, is too keen on her going down that road again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ariwl1 View Post
    She doesn't have that kind of power anymore though. To pull off the mass teleportation stunt in UA she had to use up all of Wonder Man's energy to get it to work. If she wanted to try and heal all the original mutants that are still without their powers she'd have to actually look for another power source that she could use to accomplish that with. And I don't think anybody, either in the MU or the actually readership, is too keen on her going down that road again.
    she told the skull she could find it. maybe if she spent more time looking and trying to atone for her sins instead of rolling her eyes at her victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomuniverse View Post
    No. He left his wife and son IMMEDIATELY after he heard Jean was alive.
    [broken record]It seems unfair to eternally hold an innocent fictional character responsible for the actions of his writer (who was only following Shooter's orders anyway).

    It's not as if it was even a good story, worthy of remembering. It was barely a story at all. It was an editorial fiat to get the original X-Men back together just because.
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    Really, it's been like decades. Either you let go of crap like this and edit your personal canon accordingly, or just plain stop getting any enjoyment out of these books after a while because at some point all of them will have been monsters at one time or another if continuity runs long enough.
    Last edited by Carabas; 09-15-2014 at 11:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomuniverse View Post
    Bait? Cyclops left his son for a woman. What in the world are u talking about? They knew they messed up too. Why Do U think they did The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix?
    He didn't abandon them forever...he just went to go see Jean...he even went back for them...it's an important distinction that some like to forget...and Adv of Cyclops & Phoenix had NOTHING to do with that story...Cyke had to send the kid into the future to save his life...as soon as he got a chance to follow, he did (although Rachel didn't really give either of them a choice).

    It seems like so many are ready to write Cyclops off as a character for that story which, by all accounts, was handled horribly, but they don't like to accept the later additions to said story like Maddie was already psychically manipulating him by that point and that was the only reason he left the X-Men to go off with her in the first place.

    And no one wants to call Claremont on his crap for setting the whole thing up by having Cyke marry a Jean lookalike anyway.

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