Originally Posted by
ExtremisEdge
Hey guys! So glad I found this thread! Let's get it into although I think you guys have already started the party without me.
I have long said that all these events need to have a standing and significant impact on the Marvel U as a whole. Let me begin by saying that I am 100% on the side of Captain America and the forces he commands and the ethics and ideology he stands for. I am a die hard Iron Man fan (was before I even got into Cap), but something about Tony's arrogance has recently turned me off, especially in the context of a group such as the Avengers. Stark and Cap are essentially brothers. They have been friends through thick and thin and it really pains me to see Tony hurting Cap in the ways he mentioned in Avengers #29, and especially during their entire table discussion back in New Avengers #3. I very much see the world in black and white as Cap does and I do not believe in the necessity of evil. Cap's "pussy superhero morals" as some would call them, of which I thought I would never be standing in support of, have convinced me that Steve has and always will know the most correct way to go about things.
For me, Avengers #35 did what it needed to do. It introduced the sides that are going to be in conflict and if gave us just enough where we could and should speculate but also not enough to the point where we want to know "WTH IS GOING ON!" It's well established that Stark pays for everything in terms of Avengers support and infrastructure but Cap commands and exerts loyalty. All the major hitters are and remain on his side (Thor, Hyperion, Natasha, Hawkeye, Carol, She-Hulk, etc.) I think this is a dangerous game Tony and the Illuminiati are playing. They know they can't win but WTH HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 8 months that now we see SHIELD and Sue on a complete and some would call, ultra-facist manhunt for Stark, Reed, and Strange?! Does Tony's arrogance even extend to the point where he would willingly destroy so many relationships and friendships that he's made throughout his career? Are we truly witnessing a complete Marvel overhaul following AXIS and Hickman's in 8 months time runs out arc? WTH will the Avengers even look like after this?! Why is Banner even being pursued? I always thought of him as a reluctant member of the illuminati and given all the past beef between him and Tony, I'd imagine Banner being more skeptical and confrontational with these self important and self righteous pricks. The number one thing that ticks me off though about having such a connected universe is where does Cap's aging fit into all this? Does Avengers #29 and on occur several months or weeks AFTER Cap's battle with the Iron Nail? How is it possible that we' see Sam (the new CAP) fighting alongside Iron Man in promotional material for AXIS when we very clearly know that Steve would tell Sam "YO! Don't trust Stark, he's a prick, and a liar, and a murderer." I just want to know if Hickman will be the one to explain how Cap's aging fits into his fight against Stark and co. or if Remender will be handling that? What do you guys think? What do you guys think about the many sides in this conflict? Do some of you guys truly believe that no side is right? Does anyone think this could all end in a major characters death? Like Strange or Reed? How will Tony release a commercial version of Extremis to the general public without any consequences? Will Hawkeye's vision of Cap fighting Stark come true whereby Cap will very likely be forced to kill Stark? Will Marvel editorial allow Hickman to get truly dark and depressing as we know all know he very well could? I truly apologize for being this passionate but I love that Marvel isn't afraid to pit so many beloved characters against each other. Thanks guys!