So now villains are "terrorists" ?

[Ghost Rider TheHellfireDemon]

Becasue when it is a state acting it is either a act of war or a crime against humanity. Just like state sanction executions are not normal called premeditated murders even though they are.

So is that great irony?
To punish a murder what is being used is murder of the murderer.

[Carabas]

Becasue when it is a state acting it is either a act of war or a crime against humanity. Just like state sanction executions are not normal called premeditated murders even though they are.

State terrorism is a thing that is real though.

[saul_on_the_road_to_damascus]

Good point. Many rebels and insurgents use terrorism, even when they're on the "right side". The Boston Tea Party was an act of terrorism, I'd say, although a pretty fluffy one.

No one got hurt at the boston tea party. The only people who got hurt were some fancy boys who didn't have anything to wash down their crumpets with.

[Mikekerr3]

State terrorism is a thing that is real though.

St5ate supported terrorism though intermediaries is what that term means

[Mikekerr3]

No one got hurt at the boston tea party. The only people who got hurt were some fancy boys who didn't have anything to wash down their crumpets with.

No but some of the tax collector who were tarred and feathered by that same group dies( not an unusual result) and their homes were burnt.

[Ghost Rider TheHellfireDemon]

No one got hurt at the boston tea party. The only people who got hurt were some fancy boys who didn't have anything to wash down their crumpets with.

Yes but still there was terrorism used against Great Britain by the United States.

[Carabas]

St5ate supported terrorism though intermediaries is what that term means

It does not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism

First line...

[Ghost Rider TheHellfireDemon]

No but some of the tax collector who were tarred and feathered by that same group dies( not an unusual result) and their homes were burnt.

Yes the whole homes burnt no doubt with the political objective to gain freedom from Great Britain was terrorism.

[Mikekerr3]

Yes the whole homes burnt no doubt with the political objective to gain freedom from Great Britain was terrorism.

They were not even talking about freedom from Great Rritain at the time, that came years later.

It was a complaint about taxes and representation, for the main characters involved mostly about taxes reprisal for getting caught smuggling.

And the murders and arson qwere clearly terrorism, since the cause doesn't make a difference in whether it was terrorism or not

[Tupiaz]

OK. I clearly got this topic derail way too much. Maybe it is time to get back on track. We now both have a definition of terrorism and state terrorism. It is better to stop it before it gets too ugly.

[CliffHanger2]

Wasn't Khan in the last Star Trek a terrorist? It's not really a new thing. "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

[Ghost Rider TheHellfireDemon]

They were not even talking about freedom from Great Rritain at the time, that came years later.

It was a complaint about taxes and representation, for the main characters involved mostly about taxes reprisal for getting caught smuggling.

And the murders and arson qwere clearly terrorism, since the cause doesn't make a difference in whether it was terrorism or not

Ok but still it was terrorism.

[Ghost Rider TheHellfireDemon]

Wasn't Khan in the last Star Trek a terrorist? It's not really a new thing. "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

Makes me think of one mans trash is another mans treasure.
As for khan I can't say since I haven't seen Star Trek movies with except some of the second, and the reboot first one.

[md62]

Why does this surprise people? Comic book villains have always reflected the zeitgeist of what frightens people...

in the 30s it was corrupt politicians and landlords Superman was taking down, in the 40s members of the Axis powers, 50s-60's commies and people using science to create horrors, 70s it was establishment types who were corrupt and evil, 80s corporate raiders and drug dealers, and so on and so forth. The nature of villains change to reflects the times and what it is people consider villainous. If you don't see that, you haven't looked at comics in the context of their history and development...it's what comics do.

-M

This. From Nazi's to Communists to today's terrorists...

[Ghost Rider TheHellfireDemon]

This. From Nazi's to Communists to today's terrorists...

Maybe it surprises people because terrorism didn't get the amount of exposure and attention it did until after 9/11/2001