Green Arrow #31 Discussion/Spoilers

[Spy Smasher]

Oop, wrong thread, Sorry.

[Rakzo]

Brick and Killer Moth! Lumiere, you magnifent bastard, I could kiss you! Give me Constantine Dracon and I may have your babies (this will require the Expectane syrum)!

Constantine Drakon needs to come back, I just hope that they give enough justice to such a great villain.

[DIVINITY]

By the way, Sorrentino left this little beauty on Twitter:

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Which I suppose will make some people excited.

I'm ecstatic, f#ck the razor!! Ha!

[PiercedMonk]

Constantine Drakon needs to come back, I just hope that they give enough justice to such a great villain.

I didn't think anyone felt Constantine Drakon was a worthwhile character, other than Judd Winnick. Really do not see any appeal at all to the character. Of all Green Arrow's crappy rogue's gallery, he'd be pretty near the bottom of the list of ones I want to see return.

[AlexanderLuthor]

I'm ecstatic, f#ck the razor!! Ha!

I hope that's the actual cover. Something has to get people's attention so they will try this magnificent book

[harashkupo]

Sarcasm I assume.

Very much so, I love Sorrentino and after I, Vampire started I went back to get everything he's ever illustrated. His God of War was crazy awesome.

I hope that's the actual cover. Something has to get people's attention so they will try this magnificent book

This a thousand times.

[Rakzo]

I didn't think anyone felt Constantine Drakon was a worthwhile character, other than Judd Winnick. Really do not see any appeal at all to the character. Of all Green Arrow's crappy rogue's gallery, he'd be pretty near the bottom of the list of ones I want to see return.

Then you don't spend too much time around the GA fanbase.

Everybody loves Drakon.

[ReverseReverseFlash]

I'm ecstatic, f#ck the razor!! Ha!

Hah, it's about time.

[bat39]

Honestly, while Jeff Lemire has done a brilliant job reinventing the Green Arrow mythos, as a story, The Outsiders War was fairly underwhelming. Which is surprising, considering the brilliant concepts Lemire introduced, with the Outsiders, the legend of the 'green arrow', Robert Queen being alive, the twist to Oliver's origin story etc.

I'm actually looking forward to see GA battle crime in Seattle again. Since Lemire's run began he's been more international adventurer than crime-fighter.

[Sharkey]

Lightboxing is just another tool in an artist's kit; to be pleasing to the eye, the finished product still requires a strong composition, depth of field, proper use of vectors, etc. Sorrentino might "cheat", but the end result is consistent, well constructed storytelling.

Quoted because I agree!

I love Sorrentino's art - it's a wonderful minimalistic blend of chiroscuro and Banksy-esque street art. Sure he must use some form of visual sources, but lots of artists do. Better to see an artist use visual sources to assist them with anatomy and composition than the plethora of artists whom don't. Sorrentino is consistant on a monthly schedule, and he is half the reason Green Arrow is an absolute joy for me to experience each month.

On subject of the actual topic, did anyone else spot the I, Vampire reference this issue? (the boat)

*edit* The "razor" teaser is awesome!

[DIVINITY]

I hope that's the actual cover. Something has to get people's attention so they will try this book

Yea, I'm always promoting this book, trying to bring in some new readers, it's not setting the world on fire, (sales wise) but it's holding steady...

Green Arrow 16* 19,888 (last issue before the creative team change)

Green Arrow 17* 36,043 (*+16k)
Green Arrow 18 28,080
Green Arrow 19* 29,922 (*slight bump)
Green Arrow 20 27,541
Green Arrow 21 26,924
Green Arrow 22 26,172
Green Arrow 23 25,449
Green Arrow 23.1* 26,855 (*Villain Month)
Green Arrow 24 24,620
Green Arrow 25* 29,591 (*Zero Year)
Green Arrow 26 24,687
Green Arrow 27 23,785
Green Arrow 28* 26,725 (*slight bump again)
Green Arrow 29 23,698
Green Arrow 30 (n/a)

Hah, it's about time.

It is...

I'm actually looking forward to see GA battle crime in Seattle again. Since Lemire's run began he's been more international adventurer than crime-fighter.

This next arc, you get just that...

[Stormcrow]

By the way, Sorrentino left this little beauty on Twitter:

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Which I suppose will make some people excited.

That's amazing. My one issue with Sorrentino's art was that Ollie was drawn with a baby face, so this is a welcome change if it's meant to be permanent.

I'm not one of the Van Dyke beard endorsers, but he needed at least a stubble.

[BeauL83]

Am I correct in saying #32 will be a jump on point... Or am I being completely mislead?

[Drz]

Yeah, #31 concluded the current arc and #32 begins the Longbow Hunters story.

[Sharkey]

Am I correct in saying #32 will be a jump on point... Or am I being completely mislead?

If you are looking to jump in (excellent choice!), no better way than with Volume 4 of the trades. I picked it today (even though I have all the monthly issues from #17) which covers the first part of Lemire & Sorrentino taking over. It covers from #17 through to #24 and also includes the Count Vertigo #1 / Green Arrow #23.1.

The run so far in terms of story arcs goes;

#17 - #21 - The Kill Machine (5 issues)
#22 & #23 - Shados (two parter)
#23.1 - "Count Vertigo #1" (single issue)
#24 - Dissonance (single issue)

Not collected in trade until Volume 5 is out in October (I believe?)

#25 - Zero Year tie-in (single issue)
#26- #31 - Outsiders War (6 parter)

#31 only came out last week so that's the run so far. You could easily jump in with #32 with the start of the Broken arc, but the themes and characters of said arc have been building up since #22 I believe.

Hope that helps!