Black Panther Appreciation: Wakanda Forever!

[MindofShadow]

I agree with that. His mother being saintly and basically setting him in the path of self sacrifice shouldn't be touched.

I can't remember the last time she was mentioned by name?

[XPac]

Those dudes need that 2016 update pronto lol

Last time we saw King Cadaver, I believe he was stepped on by a dinosaur.

Maybe we'll discover him scrapped on the bottom of some some monsters foot in Monsters Unleashed.

[Ezyo1000]

Sweet furry Bast, great post!

I was just keepin it low level with the interpersonal nuances for T'Challa (with the point being that I too find Coates to be full of shit with his "fresh eyes") but big picture/high-level wise, you're spot-on and others have echoed similar sentiments. He's orchestrated false narratives and perverted elements from both Hudlin and Priest's run to push this agenda of misogyny, negligence, incompetence and apathy... to fuel this great desire to revamp Wakanda's political structure to something more to his own political views.

And for the record, what he calls male power fantasy in regards to Priest and Hudlin's work, I call greatly elevating a main character in said character's own mytho. By his own duplicitous definition/insinuation of their work, i'm all for my black male superheroes to have 'male power fantasy comic books'... lol.. and for all my black female super heroines to have the female equivalent of that.

The irony is that he says Priest and Hudlin's runs are male power fantasy SD if it's a bad thing, before them Tchalla wasn't doing a whole lot and certainly wasn't being treated Right. Yet somehow since he had two very successful runs and showings he needs to be essentially humbled for the next 30 years (rough estimate between his creation and Priest revamp) before he will be allowed to to be a bad ass again.

Seriously this run is self serving to ones agenda and dismantling a 50 year mythos to do it. Sprinkling in western bviews and literature and pretending that Wakanda isn't educated enough because they aren't focusing enough in western books? How stupid is that?
Everything mixed into this run had been hot garbage and it's a shame he had been allowed to run amok in Tchalla and Wakanda

[Anonymousmc]

The irony is that he says Priest and Hudlin's runs are male power fantasy SD if it's a bad thing, before them Tchalla wasn't doing a whole lot and certainly wasn't being treated Right. Yet somehow since he had two very successful runs and showings he needs to be essentially humbled for the next 30 years (rough estimate between his creation and Priest revamp) before he will be allowed to to be a bad ass again.

Seriously this run is self serving to ones agenda and dismantling a 50 year mythos to do it. Sprinkling in western bviews and literature and pretending that Wakanda isn't educated enough because they aren't focusing enough in western books? How stupid is that?
Everything mixed into this run had been hot garbage and it's a shame he had been allowed to run amok in Tchalla and Wakanda

As fans, once you've done your due diligence on Coates, you realize he's a pseudo-intellectual that really is out of touch with African history and politics. He's more focused on aggrandizing western political structures (as if they have been beneficial to people of color) than creating an empowering African diaspora narrative. Remember he advocates for Zionism/Israel. This is not a coincidence.

[Kasper Cole]

I wouldn't say they didn't give a crap about BP in 2011. Just that they wanted to focus on their main trademark characters first before they could move further.
Besides, I don't think we would have gotten the BP easter egg in Iron Man 2 in if Marvel didn't care about BP

I think Kevin Fegie wanted to do a Black Panther movie some time ago. Ike Perlmutter was the main one holding Black Panther back. It's not a coincidence that as soon as Feige didn't have to answer to Perlmutter anymore that Black Panther and Captain Marvel got announced.

[XPac]

I think Kevin Fegie wanted to do a Black Panther movie some time ago. Ike Perlmutter was the main one holding Black Panther back. It's not a coincidence that as soon as Feige didn't have to answer to Perlmutter anymore that Black Panther and Captain Marvel got announced.

I don't necessarily think the timing was a coincidence either. That said, I think it does actually make sense to focus on the core Avengers (Iron Man, Captain America, Thor) first before branching out into less established characters like Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Ant-Man.

But that aside, I actually liked how they debuted Black Panther in Civil War FIRST before debuting him in a solo movie. I think when the BP movie does come out, it'll have a much bigger leg up over characters like Strange and Captain Marvel who sort of had to do it on their own coming out of the gate. So if BP was a delayed a little, I think it worked out better in the long run.

[HUTHAIFA]

Well, I think I found my new blog project lol

The Vanishing Supporting Cast of T'challa

Lol. Great one. It's one of the reasons I like Coates run. He is re establishing a great supporting cast.

[Ezyo1000]

As fans, once you've done your due diligence on Coates, you realize he's a pseudo-intellectual that really is out of touch with African history and politics. He's more focused on aggrandizing western political structures (as if they have been beneficial to people of color) than creating an empowering African diaspora narrative. Remember he advocates for Zionism/Israel. This is not a coincidence.

Yep, he thinks he is bringing something good to the mythos? Same tired played out coups/ rebellions, with the plot twist being that this time its actually successful. He lacks the ability to create a distinct difference between T'Challa adn Shuri now that she is no longer the Black Panther, so he has her adopt T'challa's personality, then tries to play it off like T'Challa is the more emotional one (literally nothing in his mythos has shown him to be overly emotional, He is known for his poker face) based off god knows what. And then makes Shuri the wise and intelligent leader while T'Challa is basically playing second fiddle/ follower, as if he doesn't know how to lead his country that he has been ruling and dealing with worse coups then this.

The sooner he leaves the better

[Punisher007]

I don't necessarily think the timing was a coincidence either. That said, I think it does actually make sense to focus on the core Avengers (Iron Man, Captain America, Thor) first before branching out into less established characters like Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Ant-Man.

But that aside, I actually liked how they debuted Black Panther in Civil War FIRST before debuting him in a solo movie. I think when the BP movie does come out, it'll have a much bigger leg up over characters like Strange and Captain Marvel who sort of had to do it on their own coming out of the gate. So if BP was a delayed a little, I think it worked out better in the long run.

I actually think that they've hinted that Captain Marvel will appear in Infinity War first.

[4sake Baned]

As fans, once you've done your due diligence on Coates, you realize he's a pseudo-intellectual that really is out of touch with African history and politics. He's more focused on aggrandizing western political structures (as if they have been beneficial to people of color) than creating an empowering African diaspora narrative. Remember he advocates for Zionism/Israel. This is not a coincidence.

Very true...

[4sake Baned]

Well, I think I found my new blog project lol

The Vanishing Supporting Cast of T'challa

Cool looking forward to it..

[MadFacedKid]

Bachelor Challa



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[DigiCom]

Lol. Great one. It's one of the reasons I like Coates run. He is re establishing a great supporting cast.

And tearing down a great lead character....

[Victor Freeman]

People. Coates is a joke! Why is this even a debate anymore. He clearly does NOT grasp the history of the character. His view on black power fantasy, males in particular is quite delusional and totally ignores the real reality of the character.

Why is he hung up on Black Men having the same power fantasy that is the core of super hero comics?

[dreyga2000]

I get not like the book for being too wordy, lacking action, or not being fond or T'challa's betrayal. But the personal attacks and conspiracy theories that he is purposely destroying the franchise seem... A little over the top. Is it just me?