Black Panther Appreciation: Wakanda Forever!

[XPac]

More likely than not, Coogler will follow the model already created, where magic is basically advanced tech. So Bast and whatever other gods exist are probably animal-looking aliens. Ideally though, I'd have no issue with Coates' interpretation of the gods as extraordinary humans who others have elevated to the point of godhood. As long as he leaves out the Originators stuff, which is problematic to say the least.

I'm curious to see where COates is going with some of his god elements, because if the idea is that Wakandan gods are really just elevated Wakandans then it's a pretty big retcon, since Egyptian gods are a part of the greater pantheon mythology.

Though honestly if they retcon the Wakandan gods to NOT be the Egyptian gods it probably wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

[Ezyo1000]

Budget was $200m. The advantage for Black Panther 2 is that Wakanda shouldn't have to be built from the ground up again, and I have to imagine that will allow for more time to be spent on the new visuals the sequel has to offer. And time is really what the issue is for CGI, as anytime there's a new breakthrough that will allow for better effects faster, the studios ask the houses to simply do more FX shots rather than doing the same # of shots better.

EDIT: Like, even within the first teaser, almost every shot in Wakanda has some sort of CGI component in addition to lavish sets and gorgeous costumes.



The other MCU films take cost-cutting measures via their settings. The Iron Man films have a lot of small interiors with so-so production design. The Avengers set almost the entirety of Act II within a grey helicarrier set. Thor 1 largely takes place in New Mexico, The Dark World takes place in a fairly monotonous version of Asgard, and Ragnarok has a similar budget to BP and similar problems with its effects work. Cap 1 is largely set work, the same as Cap 2. The Guardians films get a lot of mileage out of the cramped grimy interiors of the spaceships and the vacuum of space.

I'd be very curious to see what the Warrior Falls set and compositing cost on its own, as that thing must have been a nightmare to construct and operate with tons of shots and coverage between the two scenes set there. And it's something we might never see in the sequel.

EDIT: Also, any deleted scenes that were cut late are going to have had money spent on them. The assembly cut was four hours. How much money went into stuff we didn't see or only got a glimpse of (like T'Challa's office, which we barely see when Nakia retrieves Ross after Killmonger wins the throne)

All true. The sequel will have an easier time. Hopefully we get More shots of Wakanda. I would hate for it to focus too much out of Wakanda as people were left wanting more for sure

[BlackClaw]

All true. The sequel will have an easier time. Hopefully we get More shots of Wakanda. I would hate for it to focus too much out of Wakanda as people were left wanting more for sure

Here's to hoping we see Necropolis in the sequel.

[Mr MajestiK]

Here's to hoping we see Necropolis in the sequel.

Why?

As far as I'm concerned, the Necropolis was as much a part of the BP mythos decline as any of the rubbish Coates has brought with him.

I'm much rather see the Techno Jungle beneath Wakanda in more depth.

[XPac]

Here's to hoping we see Necropolis in the sequel.

It's smart branding to place that stuff in the movie, even if it doesn't play an important role in the film.

Stick it in the movie and cartoons, and you can find Necropolis lego play sets in the toy isle at Walmart. He needs his own bat cave for marketing purposes.

[Handsome men don't lose fights]

It's smart branding to place that stuff in the movie, even if it doesn't play an important role in the film.

Stick it in the movie and cartoons, and you can find Necropolis lego play sets in the toy isle at Walmart. He needs his own bat cave for marketing purposes.

"Marvel is leading our children astray by promoting necromancy!"

[Ezyo1000]

Why?

As far as I'm concerned, the Necropolis was as much a part of the BP mythos decline as any of the rubbish Coates has brought with him.

I'm much rather see the Techno Jungle beneath Wakanda in more depth.

I agree that I would rather see the techno Jungle (and make it a point that this is his own created space) then the necropolis. Especially Since communicating with the Dead is done with the hsh. The tech Jungle is a genius addition and can add alot cool elements.

[hbky2j]

[MouserGrey]

Why?

As far as I'm concerned, the Necropolis was as much a part of the BP mythos decline as any of the rubbish Coates has brought with him.

I'm much rather see the Techno Jungle beneath Wakanda in more depth.

Right on! (and not just because LEGOS!) But because I don't think anybody has touched it since Priest. It's unique, it's T'Challa's, and it's cool.

Oh snap! I forgot. In the movie it will be Shuri's. nevermind

[4sake Baned]

Why?

As far as I'm concerned, the Necropolis was as much a part of the BP mythos decline as any of the rubbish Coates has brought with him.

I'm much rather see the Techno Jungle beneath Wakanda in more depth.

Very tru & let's it hopefully put some more funds in Don M pockets...

[Cville]

Budget was $200m. The advantage for Black Panther 2 is that Wakanda shouldn't have to be built from the ground up again, and I have to imagine that will allow for more time to be spent on the new visuals the sequel has to offer. And time is really what the issue is for CGI, as anytime there's a new breakthrough that will allow for better effects faster, the studios ask the houses to simply do more FX shots rather than doing the same # of shots better.

EDIT: Like, even within the first teaser, almost every shot in Wakanda has some sort of CGI component in addition to lavish sets and gorgeous costumes.



The other MCU films take cost-cutting measures via their settings. The Iron Man films have a lot of small interiors with so-so production design. The Avengers set almost the entirety of Act II within a grey helicarrier set. Thor 1 largely takes place in New Mexico, The Dark World takes place in a fairly monotonous version of Asgard, and Ragnarok has a similar budget to BP and similar problems with its effects work. Cap 1 is largely set work, the same as Cap 2. The Guardians films get a lot of mileage out of the cramped grimy interiors of the spaceships and the vacuum of space.

I'd be very curious to see what the Warrior Falls set and compositing cost on its own, as that thing must have been a nightmare to construct and operate with tons of shots and coverage between the two scenes set there. And it's something we might never see in the sequel.

EDIT: Also, any deleted scenes that were cut late are going to have had money spent on them. The assembly cut was four hours. How much money went into stuff we didn't see or only got a glimpse of (like T'Challa's office, which we barely see when Nakia retrieves Ross after Killmonger wins the throne)

That's a cool pick. Looks like he has a map of Wakanda like on Dragonstone in GOT.

[XPac]

Right on! (and not just because LEGOS!) But because I don't think anybody has touched it since Priest. It's unique, it's T'Challa's, and it's cool.

Oh snap! I forgot. In the movie it will be Shuri's. nevermind

Well, they can always split the difference. T'CHalla can have Necropolis and Shuri can have the Techno Jungle. THat way Lego can sell 2 Wakandan play sets instead of one.

[Cville]

Here's to hoping we see Necropolis in the sequel.

I figured that was where they were doing the herb ceremony.

[neohuey89]

I figured that was where they were doing the herb ceremony.

that's what I figured too. The Panther ceremony is a lot like the King of the Dead interactions so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

[XPac]

that's what I figured too. The Panther ceremony is a lot like the King of the Dead interactions so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

If they just took 2 seconds to call it that on screen, we'd be getting Necropolis Lego sets at Walmart. Just saying