Black Panther Appreciation: Wakanda Forever!

[Cville]

I feel it is a bit TOO simple at the moment.

I would have preferred a background issue that tells us what is going on. What is the Wakanda Empire? How did this happen? What universe are we in? Why did they go bad? ect ect.

But, at least the art is pretty and T'challa is a bad ass. Could be worse.

But every issue we have that is nothing but action means we have less time fleshing out the new characters (aka EVERYONE because it is a complete new cast), less time explaining the the Wakanda Empire, less time on the plot... it will eventually have to start rushing to conclude everything. Which is a problem the last two seasons had.

If they threw information in the back on description pages, that would work for me. Don't slow down the action.

[DigiCom]

Honestly I think comics work best when they work that way. Comic aren't novels... they are a visual medium. I think when when you can tell a story without the word balloons getting in the way of the art, you're doing it the right way.

The downside is that it can make for a quick read. But overall I think when the visuals can carry the load, a story just works better.

I must disagree. While comics are indeed a visual medium, it is the combination of the words and the art that tells the story (with very few execeptions, mostly written by or in homage to Larry Hama). I have seen what happens when the role of the writer is downplyed and the artist is made paramount: Issue after issue of splash pages and pinup shots that went from mediocre to marvelous, but had the literary content of a laundry tag.

Or, in other words, the mid 90's.

There are exceptions, of course. Artists who are also writers, or equal partners with the writers. But if there isn't SOMEBODY thinking about characterization & plot, you might as well just post the pages to DeviantArt or Tumblr.

(As for this week's issues... I find I no longer have any forks to give.)

[MindofShadow]

Amazing Spider-Man: Wakanda Forever #1 spoilers

spoilers:

- Preview with Malice - Spider-Man shows up - the DM show up. Apparanetly, Nakia looks like hell because she is sick/dying. So, her motivation is to see T'challa one more time before she goes. She mentions something about STorm - the blob is called the Mimic. she controls it with the drum. it is a dora weapon AIM stole years ago that Nakia stole recently. they can track it when its used. - spider-man teams up with the DM. - Nakia is sick because of the Juneifero (sp) she used - DM/SM go to underwater AIM base to make sure Mimic wasn't duplicated - Hydroman is there seemingly under the control of Malice herb - fight. DM beat him using freeze tech - spider man stays down with frozen Hydroman to wait for authorites. DM go to NYC to sight see and wait - They get a ping at a grocery store... that was a favorite for Storm. Malice is headed for Storm

end of spoilers

No T'challa by the way.

They explained why Malice looks like that.

This was a competent comic. Nothing groundbreaking or anything but ok. You can see the scifi background with the various tech.

[FLEX HECTIC]

butterflykiss this just slipped out my pocket and posted itself I swear...





After watching the digital display fade back into the Kimoyo bead Storm righted herself.

Queen Romonda: "That video says it all... Thank you for having tea with me."

Storm: "Queen mother I..."

Queen Mother: "I'm not your queen anymore than you are a loyal Wakandan but it appears that you are more in love with this Logan fellow than my son."

Storm: "It's complicated."

Queen Mother: "It's actually not complicated you don't belong here and deep down you really don't even want to be here. I'm sure all those allegories of Charles Xavier as Dr. King and Magneto as Malcolm X has you longing for some type of 'integration' with an assumed outside society intrigues you but that's only when it a certain number of a particular fan base even really cares."

Storm: "But..."

Queen Mother: "I'm not finished... Look, my son is a key part of a franchise that did 1.3 billion dollars in sales on one movie alone while your attached franchise would have to combine it's total grosses since the year 2000 to compete with that. Do the math... Black folks were dancing in the aisles at screenings and are now doing Wakandan salutes worldwide even at major sporting events. Wake up sister the only place your relationship actually exists is from a WOKE writer trying desperately to feature something both fan bases left behind after the Hudlin years. This is bad even by Romeo and Juliet standards no one is checking for a white haired, blue eyed love interest in a heavy African based sci-fi fantasy."

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=x%20men

Queen Mother looks down and stirs her tea and then looks back up at Storm...

Queen Mother: "Even light skinned actresses stepped aside so as not to interfere with this project what's your excuse?"

https://www.bet.com/celebrities/news...t-skinned.html

Queen Mother: "Everybody gets it but you... Are you a stalker now?"

Storm: "No, I never meant..."

Queen Mother: "It's okay girlfriend it's just me and you talking trying to reason this out. Why upset two sets of fans with this dead-up-in-da-streets issue and drag it on indefinitely? You can't sell an ongoing comic by yourself and you appear to be nothing more than this Logan's side chick when Miss Jean Grey is not at his disposal. What value do you bring in revenue to my sons franchise? Are you a homeless intellectual property or what?"

Queen Mother sips her tea and then sets the authentic BP Disney mug down, smiles warmly and waits for a valid answer.

Strom: "But... But... There are Wakandans who worship me as a living god what about what they want!"

Queen Mother: "THEM N!&&@$ OVER THERE... SHEEEEEEEEit you talking crazay nobodyy FRAKS with those primitive idiots way out there this is downtown Wakanda where we have running water and internet access! For that matter we could just as easily worship Thor or Silver Surfer who are way more powerful than you. You are looking for a reason to stick around here because there are no real plans for you back where you came from."

Queen Mother squeezes a little honey into her tea, stirs and sips again.

Queen Mother: "I'm not necessarily kicking you out or saying you have to leave Wakanda right at this very moment but... Bye Felicia!"

[4sake Baned]

Amazing Spider-Man: Wakanda Forever #1 spoilers

spoilers:

- Preview with Malice - Spider-Man shows up - the DM show up. Apparanetly, Nakia looks like hell because she is sick/dying. So, her motivation is to see T'challa one more time before she goes. She mentions something about STorm - the blob is called the Mimic. she controls it with the drum. it is a dora weapon AIM stole years ago that Nakia stole recently. they can track it when its used. - spider-man teams up with the DM. - Nakia is sick because of the Juneifero (sp) she used - DM/SM go to underwater AIM base to make sure Mimic wasn't duplicated - Hydroman is there seemingly under the control of Malice herb - fight. DM beat him using freeze tech - spider man stays down with frozen Hydroman to wait for authorites. DM go to NYC to sight see and wait - They get a ping at a grocery store... that was a favorite for Storm. Malice is headed for Storm

end of spoilers

No T'challa by the way.

They explained why Malice looks like that.

This was a competent comic. Nothing groundbreaking or anything but ok. You can see the scifi background with the various tech.

Not great or spectacular, but good ( I give it a 6.8) also zero shade/disses thur at BP.. while not amazing writer comic so far, the BP franchise would have been a lot better off if she would have wrote world of wakanda versus the trash we get..

[Agent Z]

butterflykiss this just slipped out my pocket and posted itself I swear...





After watching the digital display fade back into the Kimoyo bead Storm righted herself.

Queen Romonda: "That video says it all... Thank you for having tea with me."

Storm: "Queen mother I..."

Queen Mother: "I'm not your queen anymore than you are a loyal Wakandan but it appears that you are more in love with this Logan fellow than my son."

Storm: "It's complicated."

Queen Mother: "It's actually not complicated you don't belong here and deep down you really don't even want to be here. I'm sure all those allegories of Charles Xavier as Dr. King and Magneto as Malcolm X has you longing for some type of 'integration' with an assumed outside society intrigues you but that's only when it a certain number of a particular fan base even really cares."

Storm: "But..."

Queen Mother: "I'm not finished... Look, my son is a key part of a franchise that did 1.3 billion dollars in sales on one movie alone while your attached franchise would have to combine it's total grosses since the year 2000 to compete with that. Do the math... Black folks were dancing in the aisles at screenings and are now doing Wakandan salutes worldwide even at major sporting events. Wake up sister the only place your relationship actually exists is from a WOKE writer trying desperately to feature something both fan bases left behind after the Hudlin years. This is bad even by Romeo and Juliet standards no one is checking for a white haired, blue eyed love interest in a heavy African based sci-fi fantasy."

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=x%20men

Queen Mother looks down and stirs her tea and then looks back up at Storm...

Queen Mother: "Even light skinned actresses stepped aside so as not to interfere with this project what's your excuse?"

https://www.bet.com/celebrities/news...t-skinned.html

Queen Mother: "Everybody gets it but you... Are you a stalker now?"

Storm: "No, I never meant..."

Queen Mother: "It's okay girlfriend it's just me and you talking trying to reason this out. Why upset two sets of fans with this dead-up-in-da-streets issue and drag it on indefinitely? You can't sell an ongoing comic by yourself and you appear to be nothing more than this Logan's side chick when Miss Jean Grey is not at his disposal. What value do you bring in revenue to my sons franchise? Are you a homeless intellectual property or what?"

Queen Mother sips her tea and then sets the authentic BP Disney mug down, smiles warmly and waits for a valid answer.

Strom: "But... But... There are Wakandans who worship me as a living god what about what they want!"

Queen Mother: "THEM N!&&@$ OVER THERE... SHEEEEEEEEit you talking crazay nobodyy FRAKS with those primitive idiots way out there this is downtown Wakanda where we have running water and internet access! For that matter we could just as easily worship Thor or Silver Surfer who are way more powerful than you. You are looking for a reason to stick around here because there are no real plans for you back where you came from."

Queen Mother squeezes a little honey into her tea, stirs and sips again.

Queen Mother: "I'm not necessarily kicking you out or saying you have to leave Wakanda right at this very moment but... Bye Felicia!"

Why do I get the feeling I would be very afraid of your version of the Queen Mother?

[Mr MajestiK]

Wow.

I don't dislike Coates. I dislike what he's done to BP.

Myself and many others have pointed out tons of problems with Coates run.

He changes isht for no reason and no of the changes benefit BP.

He butchered Wakanda with that no one man bs.

He gave every major feat to some other character.

He retconned isht that didn't need to be.

He doesn't follow up on the isht he changes.

If there are people who like what Coates is doing that's all well and good.

But the problems many people have with him are based on what actually done in the books and not some "we just don't like Coates" isht.

I really applaud you for taking time out to politely speak out on the reverse psychology victim Hood that passes for commentary in this thread from time to time.

[Mr MajestiK]

butterflykiss this just slipped out my pocket and posted itself I swear...





After watching the digital display fade back into the Kimoyo bead Storm righted herself.

Queen Romonda: "That video says it all... Thank you for having tea with me."

Storm: "Queen mother I..."

Queen Mother: "I'm not your queen anymore than you are a loyal Wakandan but it appears that you are more in love with this Logan fellow than my son."

Storm: "It's complicated."

Queen Mother: "It's actually not complicated you don't belong here and deep down you really don't even want to be here. I'm sure all those allegories of Charles Xavier as Dr. King and Magneto as Malcolm X has you longing for some type of 'integration' with an assumed outside society intrigues you but that's only when it a certain number of a particular fan base even really cares."

Storm: "But..."

Queen Mother: "I'm not finished... Look, my son is a key part of a franchise that did 1.3 billion dollars in sales on one movie alone while your attached franchise would have to combine it's total grosses since the year 2000 to compete with that. Do the math... Black folks were dancing in the aisles at screenings and are now doing Wakandan salutes worldwide even at major sporting events. Wake up sister the only place your relationship actually exists is from a WOKE writer trying desperately to feature something both fan bases left behind after the Hudlin years. This is bad even by Romeo and Juliet standards no one is checking for a white haired, blue eyed love interest in a heavy African based sci-fi fantasy."

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/search/?q=x%20men

Queen Mother looks down and stirs her tea and then looks back up at Storm...

Queen Mother: "Even light skinned actresses stepped aside so as not to interfere with this project what's your excuse?"

https://www.bet.com/celebrities/news...t-skinned.html

Queen Mother: "Everybody gets it but you... Are you a stalker now?"

Storm: "No, I never meant..."

Queen Mother: "It's okay girlfriend it's just me and you talking trying to reason this out. Why upset two sets of fans with this dead-up-in-da-streets issue and drag it on indefinitely? You can't sell an ongoing comic by yourself and you appear to be nothing more than this Logan's side chick when Miss Jean Grey is not at his disposal. What value do you bring in revenue to my sons franchise? Are you a homeless intellectual property or what?"

Queen Mother sips her tea and then sets the authentic BP Disney mug down, smiles warmly and waits for a valid answer.

Strom: "But... But... There are Wakandans who worship me as a living god what about what they want!"

Queen Mother: "THEM N!&&@$ OVER THERE... SHEEEEEEEEit you talking crazay nobodyy FRAKS with those primitive idiots way out there this is downtown Wakanda where we have running water and internet access! For that matter we could just as easily worship Thor or Silver Surfer who are way more powerful than you. You are looking for a reason to stick around here because there are no real plans for you back where you came from."

Queen Mother squeezes a little honey into her tea, stirs and sips again.

Queen Mother: "I'm not necessarily kicking you out or saying you have to leave Wakanda right at this very moment but... Bye Felicia!"

Storm aka Coat tail rider.

[skyvolt2000]

you hit this right on the money and I'm GLAD you said it! please keep spreading the truth.

Majority of people actually like it..
It's the the loud minority in certain BP groups that will complain
No matter what..

They simply don't like Coates ..

You mean the ones who were here DAY ONE?

Who struggled with Priest to keep this book afloat?
Who supported this book when Hudlin did stuff like a certain marriage and other stuff?
Who supported Shuri while BOssman was asleep?
Who endured the nonstop trolling from Namor, X-Men and unfans after the marriage got Diary of a Mad Black Woman by Jason Aaron-that got this thread shutdown MANY times.
Who supported Black Panther acting like Daredevil in a silly storyline?
Who went through the period of no Black Panther solo and instead of attacking/lying about folks like Moon Girl, Draken, Carol Danvers, Inhumans, Red Wolf, Starbrand & so on as the reasons why he could't have one-with MORE respect than a LOT of so-called fans.
Who did not set fire to books
Who did not chase fans out stores
Who did not call Disney to get Axel, Joe and other fired because we weren't being pandered to
Who did not chase creators off of Twitter
Who did not create HATE to go after Kyle.. I mean Storm or Midnight Angels.
Who did not troll threads of we want Ted or Rich.
Who ALL have Coates a chance. And like a REAL comic book fan SHOULD act-if we don't like what we see-we don't BUY IT.

Complaint is defined as "I can't read a book about Bruce Banner because MOON GIRL has a book."
What you are seeing here is criticism-"Based on what I have read........"
Lets learn the difference.

[Mr MajestiK]

You mean the ones who were here DAY ONE?

Who struggled with Priest to keep this book afloat?
Who supported this book when Hudlin did stuff like a certain marriage and other stuff?
Who supported Shuri while BOssman was asleep?
Who endured the nonstop trolling from Namor, X-Men and unfans after the marriage got Diary of a Mad Black Woman by Jason Aaron-that got this thread shutdown MANY times.
Who supported Black Panther acting like Daredevil in a silly storyline?
Who went through the period of no Black Panther solo and instead of attacking/lying about folks like Moon Girl, Draken, Carol Danvers, Inhumans, Red Wolf, Starbrand & so on as the reasons why he could't have one-with MORE respect than a LOT of so-called fans.
Who did not set fire to books
Who did not chase fans out stores
Who did not call Disney to get Axel, Joe and other fired because we weren't being pandered to
Who did not chase creators off of Twitter
Who did not create HATE to go after Kyle.. I mean Storm or Midnight Angels.
Who did not troll threads of we want Ted or Rich.
Who ALL have Coates a chance. And like a REAL comic book fan SHOULD act-if we don't like what we see-we don't BUY IT.

Complaint is defined as "I can't read a book about Bruce Banner because MOON GIRL has a book."
What you are seeing here is criticism-"Based on what I have read........"
Lets learn the difference.

This will fly over the heads of some.

[Bunai]

Coates >>> Rian Johnson.

[Jabare]

how is this not an else world or a Star Wars comic?

arts good tho

[Dboi654]

Eh. I liked this issue. This issue and the previous are mostly about intrigue but still an interesting read.

[MindofShadow]

Coates >>> Rian Johnson.

Not hard to beat a space battle to relies on "chase them til they run out of gas" lol

[DigiCom]

Storm aka Coat tail rider.

Coates-tail rider?