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  1. #886
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    Man, I love Kurt Busiek.

    Reading Amazing Fantasy #16.
    It's always nice seeing early early Spider-Man. Early Spider-Man never intended to be a superhero. That much is constant, but it's interesting to see his just how he fell into the role.

    Also reading Spider-Man: Legacy of Evil.
    It's kinda funny to see people in-universe assess events that readers have firsthand knowledge in. This is probably the moment where Ben Urich really figures out who Spider-Man is.

    And finally Spider-Man: With Great Power...
    Out of all of the AUs, this is the one that I want a continuation in the most, and the reason why will become obvious when you finish the miniseries.

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    My most recent readings of Spider-Man comics in collected editions have been :
    Marvel Knights:Spider-Man Vol.1#1 to 6 by Mark Millar and Terry Dodson and Frank Cho.This is a re-reading.
    Spider-Man:Torment.A re-reading of Spider-Man#1 to 5 from Todd McFarlane.
    And i got another Hardcover edition that have Spider-Man#6 to 12 also by Tod McFarlane.Had never read Spider-Man#8 to 12 actually.Only the first two stories with the Ghost Rider.
    Art wise,Todd McFarlane stories have better art that the Marvel Knights:Spider-Man.
    Story wise Marvel Knights:Spider-Man is more interesting,but i liked the stories from Spider-Man from Todd McFarlane as well,especially the stories from Spider-Man issue one to seven.

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    The issues that led up to issue #75 of the Amazing Spider-Man,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The issues that led up to issue #75 of the Amazing Spider-Man,
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    Wow this is out of context...

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    I recently decided to read through Paul Jenkins Spiderman comics. When I first started getting into comics Jenkins and JMS were the writers at the time. While I got Jenkins issues from time to time, I usually just stuck with JSM, so I wanted to read through Jenkins stuff to see what I had missed. Started with Webspinners #10-12 last night. I though 10 and 11 were incredible and left me feeling sad for the Chameleon. While I know he comes back in future issues, that scene of him jumping off the bridge was pretty impactful to me as well as Peter's reaction to it. I felt #12 was decent but felt unnecessary and to me was a major step down from the previous two issues.

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    First I finally found a copy of ASM 252 in great condition that didn't require your first born child, so I am super excited to add this issue to my collection!

    Other great pick ups that I enjoyed reading:

    Marvel Team Up Annual #4- Spider-Man, Moon Knight, Iron Fist, Power Man, and Daredevil
    Great story where they go against The Purple Man!

    Spider-Man King Size Annual #14
    Spider-Man & Doctor Strange vs Doctor Doom & Dormamu..........amazing art and story by Denny O'Neil & Frank Miller!

    Marvel Team Up #50
    Spider-Man & Doctor Strange
    AKA FlashFreak

    Favorite Characters:

    DC:
    The Flash (Jay & Wally), The Atom (Ray Palmer) , Jack Knight, Stargirl, & Shazam!.

    MARVEL:
    Daredevil, Spider-Man (Peter Parker), Iron Fist, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man (Scott Lang), & Iron Man.

    Current Pulls:
    Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man, Venom, Immortal Hulk, Shazam,Guardians of The Galaxy, Old Man Quill,Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, WOTR, & Spider-Man Life Story.

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    I recently bought and read Spiderman: El regreso del duende, that collects ASM #275,276 & 278-281. Such a good read! I also order El Duende Vive (Hobgoblin Lives) from Spain, so I'm expanding my collection of stories involving Roderick Kingsley as the Hobgoblin (though I know it's debatable as canon about Hobby's identity had him as Ned Leeds for years)

    "The Batman is Gotham City. I will watch him. Study him. And when I know him and why he does not kill, I will know this city. And then Gotham will be MINE!"-BANE

    "We're monsters, buddy. Plain and simple. I don't dress it up with fancy names like mutant or post-human; men were born crueler than Apes and we were born crueler than men. It's just the natural order of things"-ULTIMATE SABRETOOTH

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    My re-read of The Clone Saga has led me to the midway point of Maximum Cloneage, and it's becoming clear to me why the storyline was vilified for so many years.

    A lot of the drama of the early installments of the story has been replaced by tedium - with Kaine revealed as Peter Parker's clone, and Spidercide returning after his apparent death, there are now four Peter Parkers running around, which massively dilutes the impact of Ben Reilly as a character. The Jackal just isn't an interesting enough character, and he doesn't have a compelling enough motivation to make him work as the mastermind of the story, and his over the top dialogue makes him an incredibly irritating presence throughout his appearances. I have just read the issue where Peter joins the Jackal, and his motivations for doing so are frankly laughable and, if you'll forgive the hyperbole, insulting to the reader.

    The style of storytelling has also become a bit of a chore to read. While the early four parters like Power and Responsibility and The Exile Returns worked, to some extent, having every storyline stretched to four parts has worn thin by now and led to some really decompressed storytelling. It doesn't help that the quality of artwork has taken a nosedive, with regular colouring errors giving some stories a really cheap and rushed appearance.

    There have, of course, been occasional bright spots. I might be biased, as it was one of the first issues that I ever read, but Web of Spider-Man #125 is a creepy and atmospheric introduction to an intriguing new Green Goblin. Parts of 'The Trial of Peter Parker' are dramatic and exhilarating to read. The much maligned issue of Spectacular Spider-Man where Peter finds out that he is the clone, is actually a really pacy, well plotted story with excellent (if idiosyncratic) artwork from Buscema and Sienkiewicz. As a complete story-arc though, it just does not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTait View Post
    My re-read of The Clone Saga has led me to the midway point of Maximum Cloneage, and it's becoming clear to me why the storyline was vilified for so many years.

    A lot of the drama of the early installments of the story has been replaced by tedium - with Kaine revealed as Peter Parker's clone, and Spidercide returning after his apparent death, there are now four Peter Parkers running around, which massively dilutes the impact of Ben Reilly as a character. The Jackal just isn't an interesting enough character, and he doesn't have a compelling enough motivation to make him work as the mastermind of the story, and his over the top dialogue makes him an incredibly irritating presence throughout his appearances. I have just read the issue where Peter joins the Jackal, and his motivations for doing so are frankly laughable and, if you'll forgive the hyperbole, insulting to the reader.

    The style of storytelling has also become a bit of a chore to read. While the early four parters like Power and Responsibility and The Exile Returns worked, to some extent, having every storyline stretched to four parts has worn thin by now and led to some really decompressed storytelling. It doesn't help that the quality of artwork has taken a nosedive, with regular colouring errors giving some stories a really cheap and rushed appearance.

    There have, of course, been occasional bright spots. I might be biased, as it was one of the first issues that I ever read, but Web of Spider-Man #125 is a creepy and atmospheric introduction to an intriguing new Green Goblin. Parts of 'The Trial of Peter Parker' are dramatic and exhilarating to read. The much maligned issue of Spectacular Spider-Man where Peter finds out that he is the clone, is actually a really pacy, well plotted story with excellent (if idiosyncratic) artwork from Buscema and Sienkiewicz. As a complete story-arc though, it just does not work.
    I think the Clone Saga starts pretty strong, or it's solid at least at the beginning. But certainly there comes a moment when it starts to fall and to get through it is a challenge on itself. It would have worked much better if it hadn't be stretched so drastically, though the "if" is a dangerous concept when talking about the Clone Saga, because it could mean that if it was better fan's outrage wouldn't have been so big or maybe the change from Peter to Ben as the original Spider-Man would have been so fast that fans wouldn't have had the chance to react before the change was applied and consolidated, as I remember J.M DeMatteis saying in an interview. Though I don't agree with DeMatteis' point of view about the Clone Saga, he's one of the highlights of it, especially with issues like ASM#400 and the plot of MJ coming to peaces with her sister.

    Currently, I'm re-reading Epic Collection The Amazing Spider-Man: Great Power; by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. As always, it's lots of fun and epicness
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    Currently onto Masterworks Vol 4 and loving these charming stories all over again. The Master Planner arc is amazing ( see what i did there lol ).

    By the end of this Vol i will be finished Ditko’s run and into Romita’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubistian View Post
    I think the Clone Saga starts pretty strong, or it's solid at least at the beginning. But certainly there comes a moment when it starts to fall and to get through it is a challenge on itself. It would have worked much better if it hadn't be stretched so drastically, though the "if" is a dangerous concept when talking about the Clone Saga, because it could mean that if it was better fan's outrage wouldn't have been so big or maybe the change from Peter to Ben as the original Spider-Man would have been so fast that fans wouldn't have had the chance to react before the change was applied and consolidated, as I remember J.M DeMatteis saying in an interview. Though I don't agree with DeMatteis' point of view about the Clone Saga, he's one of the highlights of it, especially with issues like ASM#400 and the plot of MJ coming to peaces with her sister.

    Currently, I'm re-reading Epic Collection The Amazing Spider-Man: Great Power; by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. As always, it's lots of fun and epicness
    While I’m part of the minority that thinks #400 was overrated, I loved how they managed character development between Peter, Ben, and MJ which is why I’m annoyed by the implication that only the “real” Peter deserved a life.

    Thank god for TPBs. I don’t think I could’ve read that comic as it came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubistian View Post
    I think the Clone Saga starts pretty strong, or it's solid at least at the beginning. But certainly there comes a moment when it starts to fall and to get through it is a challenge on itself. It would have worked much better if it hadn't be stretched so drastically.
    It's funny; although I do tend to agree that the Clone Saga would have been a much better story if it had ended sooner, I don't think that this was the biggest problem with it. The biggest problem was a lack of quality control (Maximum Clonage Alpha and Omega were both technically incompetent) and the editorial edict that every story arc had to be stretched to four parts, running through all of the core titles. This led to some really choppy, uneven storytelling and didn't play to DeMatteis and Defalco's strengths.

    I think the Clone Saga could have been a solid storyline if the creators involved had been left to their own devices, and if it had been wrapped up with a satisfactory, well thought out conclusion, written by DeMatteis and illustrated by Bagley or Buscema.

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    I'm starting my re-read of Epic Collection The Amazing Spider-Man:Great Responsibility
    "The Batman is Gotham City. I will watch him. Study him. And when I know him and why he does not kill, I will know this city. And then Gotham will be MINE!"-BANE

    "We're monsters, buddy. Plain and simple. I don't dress it up with fancy names like mutant or post-human; men were born crueler than Apes and we were born crueler than men. It's just the natural order of things"-ULTIMATE SABRETOOTH

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