SMWW Licensed T-Shirt : WTH DC!!!

[Dr. Poison]

nothing in the picture suggest is a commited relationship much the contrary. It's paints Superman as a womanizer and WW as his conquest/prize,
there is nothing romantic here, is all about sex.
it is sexist.
ops it's superman, it's only sexist if it is orion and if azzarello wrote it. I don't really see that much difference

I don't see Superman and Wonder Woman having sex in that photo. Both of them are fully clothed. Superman is holding Wonder Woman and kissing her passionately. That looks more like love than sex to me.

It's not that Azzarello wrote it, it's what he wrote between Orion and Diana/Aleka. Superman has yet to slap a woman on the butt, call her legs, or tell her he's going to show her how he uses his tongue. After those things happen, we can discuss this again.

[kidstandout]

it is Dc licensed?
there is only superman flying with Lois and it is written pick up artist, a thing that many people doesn't know what is. It is pretty random

picking up girls, pick up lines ect. literally the exact same meaning as scoring.
this shirt wouldn't exist without a license.

[kidstandout]

This is first time i'll agree with you!! The T-shirt is awful, plain and simple, there is no excuse for it! But i do question if you would have the same problem if it was Orion on the T-shirt instead of SM!! It seem to me you haven't had a problem with Orion treating WW like a piece of meat, a sex object or calling her by a bodypart!! It's like you have been cheering his behavior on!! It seem to me you and a lot of fans don't have a problem with this behavior as long as it Orion and Azz. is the writing story!!

i don't agree with your assesment of the shirt, but your spot on with your second assessment. total pot/kettle moment

[Blacksun]

I don't see Superman and Wonder Woman having sex in that photo. Both of them are fully clothed. Superman is holding Wonder Woman and kissing her passionately. That looks more like love than sex to me.

It's not that Azzarello wrote it, it's what he wrote between Orion and Diana/Aleka. Superman has yet to slap a woman on the butt, call her legs, or tell her he's going to show her how he uses his tongue. After those things happen, we can discuss this again.

it is strongly implied he will ahve sex and he had sex with her before. It's all about how superman is a stud and WW is his girl. I don't see anything about love with the word score there
from urban dictionairy

score
to get laid: the ultimate GOAL of most teenagers. Hence the term score

really romantic.

even if superman never did these things, the term score is pretty sexist in the context of t-shirt.

now if this was Orion and ww, or batww...the world would end tonight here

This is first time i'll agree with you!! The T-shirt is awful, plain and simple, there is no excuse for it! But i do question if you would have the same problem if it was Orion on the T-shirt instead of SM!! It seem to me you haven't had a problem with Orion treating WW like a piece of meat, a sex object or calling her by a bodypart!! It's like you have been cheering his behavior on!! It seem to me you and a lot of fans don't have a problem with this behavior as long as it Orion and Azz. is writing the story!!

No, I always recognized that his behavior was wrong. It's not because I ship him with WW that I will approve his behavior

I don't think people would like a Orion/WW T-shirt with the term Score, Orion hits again right? or superman can get a free pass?

[dangleo61288]

picking up girls, pick up lines ect. literally the exact same meaning as scoring.
this shirt wouldn't exist without a license.

The Lois shirt is a play on words. He is actually picking her up in the literal sense. The WW is tacky and seems to be targeted to people who don't read comics.

[Dr. Poison]

it is strongly implied he will ahve sex and he had sex with her before. It's all about how superman is a stud and WW is his girl. I don't see anything about love with the word score there
from urban dictionairy


really romantic.

even if superman never did these things, the term score is pretty sexist in the context of t-shirt.

now if this was Orion and ww, or batww...the world would end tonight here

I've heard plenty of guys say they scored when they got a really good girl to date them(not just for sex). I know that "score" can mean one got laid but that's not the only meaning behind that word. But let's be honest here, do you have anything good to say about the Superman/Wonder Woman romance or the book? You don't care for that and that's fine but it's hard to view your comments as objective when they're always negative about the couple or their book.

[kidstandout]

The Lois shirt is a play on words. He is actually picking her up in the literal sense. The WW is tacky and seems to be targeted to people who don't read comics.

no offense, that is a weak excuse. him picking her up literally doesn't change the fact that picking up girls in the romantic sense is exactly the same thing as scoring. granted the shirt in question it more obvious but let's not pretend there isn't a double standard in play.

[Blacksun]

picking up girls, pick up lines ect. literally the exact same meaning as scoring.
this shirt wouldn't exist without a license.

not sure if it is licensed, the one of smww there is a DC logo inside

[kidstandout]

not sure if it is licensed, the one of smww there is a DC logo inside

nothing without dc's say so can use their characters without a license. if it is, they would be sued a new one

[dangleo61288]

no offense, that is a weak excuse. him picking her up literally doesn't change the fact that picking up girls in the romantic sense is exactly the same thing as scoring. granted the shirt in question it more obvious but let's not pretend there isn't a double standard in play.

I will give you that, but Wonder Woman is suppose to be a feminist icon. To put her on a shirt like that is horrible.

[Blacksun]

nothing without dc's say so can use their characters without a license. if it is, they would be sued a new one

who knows? I see people seeling ww, superman t-shirts on red bubble

I've heard plenty of guys say they scored when they got a really good girl to date them(not just for sex). I know that "score" can mean one got laid but that's not the only meaning behind that word. But let's be honest here, do you have anything good to say about the Superman/Wonder Woman romance or the book? You don't care for that and that's fine but it's hard to view your comments as objective when they're always negative about the couple or their book.

that is the principal meaning of score. Want to be romantic? said "make love". score is extremely teenager and dudebro term, that I don't want ever see WW related to it.
So I have to like the couple to say something objective about it? oh please. For me and many others this t-shirt is a obvious case of sexism against WW. Independent of the guy on the t-shirt i will criticize it. I want more respect for WW, female heroes and women.

[kidstandout]

I will give you that, but Wonder Woman is suppose to be a feminist icon. To put her on a shirt like that is horrible.

to take that shirt as an indication of what the relationship is actually like, or even take the shirt seriously at all is even worse.

personally, i don't think ww being referred to as a catch or superman "scoring" with her is demeaning per se, i'd just never actually picturing him talking like that and believe scoring only seems to have a negative annotation with woman but not the other way around(don't even try to say women dont do that when it comes to "hot dates"). which leads to my next point, steve trevor anyone?

who knows? I see people seeling ww, superman t-shirts on red bubble

and if they don't have a license, best believe they are getting sued.

[Darius]

http://www.hybrisonline.com/shop/208...pic-364324.jpg
double standard anyone?

This one I can see as at least an attempt at humor ... He's literally picking Lois up ... I've seen many variations of "womanizer" "playa" "Pornstar" etc ... Out there. But I fail to see anything in the original post shirt that makes me anything other than contemptuous of the decision to create it. It's offensive to both characters.

[Blacksun]

to take that shirt as an indication of what the relationship is actually like, or even take the shirt seriously at all is even worse.

personally, i don't think ww being referred to as a catch or superman "scoring" with her is demeaning per se, i'd just never actually picturing him talking like that and believe scoring only seems to have a negative annotation with woman but not the other way around(don't even try to say women dont do that when it comes to "hot dates"). which leads to my next point, steve trevor anyone?



and if they don't have a license, best believe they are getting sued.

so why this wasn't WW scoring superman?
what Steve Trevor has to do with it?

they aren't getting sued.

[Darius]

I've heard plenty of guys say they scored when they got a really good girl to date them(not just for sex). I know that "score" can mean one got laid but that's not the only meaning behind that word. But let's be honest here, do you have anything good to say about the Superman/Wonder Woman romance or the book? You don't care for that and that's fine but it's hard to view your comments as objective when they're always negative about the couple or their book.

I'm more bothered by its connotation that Diana is some sort of prize to be won. Why not say "Diana does it again"? She's actually the one in N52 who's had multiple relationships.