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    I have a feeling Thinker's Metron-apparatus (which is probably just a modernized and expanded version of his thinking cap in the comics) is just a prelude to him going full-digital like he did in the comics.

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    Cisco and Wally must really be stuck in that sidekick role if Iris is the one calling shots. It was more like Team Iris than Team Kid Flash or Team Vibe. I'm kind of disappointed considering I was really hoping for an intro with Wally and maybe Wally considering either trying to take the place of the Flash or just announce that the Flash is dead and Kid Flash is going to protect Central City as the new Flash.

    I understand, though, Barry's back and he's the Flash and not much more reason to establish a new status quo if they're going right back to the old one (they even, a little too easily, were able to make an excuse for Barry Allen's absence at the CCPD). Despite Caitlin's personality storyline being dragged on for too long, at least she looks like the only one who actually has a plot going forward this season. Barry and Iris have their wedding to plan, I suppose, and Joe has rediscovered religion, but what are Cisco and Wally doing this season?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elmo View Post
    Iris was just intolerable this episode. There's really no way to justify "don't bring my dead/gone boyfriend back because I've already moved on." That's simply not a thing. Anyone with the chance to bring back a loved one would do it. There was really no reason to write her like that.
    I think it was more her not wanting to get her hopes up plus a lot of skepticism about the whole process. Both Jay and Wally were trapped in the Speed Force, something no one really understands, so Iris probably just figured even if Barry came back, someone else would need to be sacrificed.

    Quote Originally Posted by SXVA View Post
    Loved all of the Caitlin scenes and the Caitlin/Cisco scenes, very nice to have her back contributing to the team and that Caitlin/Cisco bromance going strong.
    Haha, Caitlin's a bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    In the story, they can jump around in time. So they can do a show, even several shows, where one of the plots is about Barry in the past, while the plot in the present is about Wallly or Iris or Cisco.

    When ARROW had its routine five year flashbacks, they could always do an episode where Oliver was absent in the present--yet Stephen Amell would still appear in the flashbacks. There were even some ARROW episodes where the flashback was the main part of the show.
    When Ra's Al Ghul killed Ollie a season or two ago, I was hoping he'd be dead for an extended time and then they'd just use him every episode in flashbacks. As for Barry, they definitely had options they could've done by having Grant appear in every episode but having his friends think him dead.

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    Never considered we would see Frank Robbins-Ross Andru SAMUARIOD on a live-action TV series. FLASH #180-181.
    So that's who that was! I was wondering if he was supposed to be Samurai from Super Friends just because of the flying and the wind stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyDub View Post
    I really wish Arrow and flash would switch up on one main thing in following the couples thing. I wish Flash would move past that, and arrow would go with it. I am sorry season 1 it worked the whole Iris/Barry thing but since then i have hated it. Seems like its so forced They have a deadline for Iris/Barry relationship as the paper from the future they are married. They could easily have Barry and Iris with others in the mean time. I am sorry but I felt Barry/Patty had much more chemistry as a couple then Barry and Iris had, hell even Barry/Linda was better then Iris/Barry.
    I think it would actually be refreshing to have the main character get married and stay married. And there's plenty of room for interesting developments there, particularly the Tornado Twins thing that was hinted at.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    I can appreciate from the promos of Thinker that some people are picking up a Metron vibe. They're definitely going for that aesthetic. It's cool, but a part of me hankers for the old school steam punk thinking cap. Maybe this is yet another case of CW sneaking in an aspect of another character that they can't use through a character they can use. Atom and Arrow being other examples of this. I'm sure the producers have asked DC if they could use any or all of the Fourth World and I'm sure they were given a firm No, since that's property WB would want for the movies--and we already have Mother Boxes and Steppenwolf for JUSTICE LEAGUE (and probably would have got more if they had done JUSTICE LEAGUE Part 2).
    I feel like if any show was going to use Fourth World characters, it would be Supergirl. Even if Darkseid was a hard no, they could have Granny Goodness as the main antagonist, have Kara go up against the Furies, maybe have a love/hate trust/mistrust relationship with Barda (and a love triangle involving Scott).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90'sCartoonMan View Post
    Cisco and Wally must really be stuck in that sidekick role if Iris is the one calling shots. It was more like Team Iris than Team Kid Flash or Team Vibe. I'm kind of disappointed considering I was really hoping for an intro with Wally and maybe Wally considering either trying to take the place of the Flash or just announce that the Flash is dead and Kid Flash is going to protect Central City as the new Flash.
    I was definitely hoping we'd get more of a spotlight on Wally with Barry gone and at least try and do some justice to his tenure as The Flash, but so far it seems like the show just thinks of him solely as Kid Flash.

    I understand, though, Barry's back and he's the Flash and not much more reason to establish a new status quo if they're going right back to the old one (they even, a little too easily, were able to make an excuse for Barry Allen's absence at the CCPD). Despite Caitlin's personality storyline being dragged on for too long, at least she looks like the only one who actually has a plot going forward this season. Barry and Iris have their wedding to plan, I suppose, and Joe has rediscovered religion, but what are Cisco and Wally doing this season?
    Cisco's got his Gypsy relationship to capitalize on, and we might see some difficulty between Barry and Wally as the team adjusts to having Barry back.

    I think it was more her not wanting to get her hopes up plus a lot of skepticism about the whole process. Both Jay and Wally were trapped in the Speed Force, something no one really understands, so Iris probably just figured even if Barry came back, someone else would need to be sacrificed.
    And bringing Barry back might still come back to bite them if the Speed Force finds out it got duped.

    Haha, Caitlin's a bro.
    She does seem to act more like a "chill dude" compared to the last few seasons.

    I think it would actually be refreshing to have the main character get married and stay married. And there's plenty of room for interesting developments there, particularly the Tornado Twins thing that was hinted at.
    Not to mention Impulse .

    I feel like if any show was going to use Fourth World characters, it would be Supergirl. Even if Darkseid was a hard no, they could have Granny Goodness as the main antagonist, have Kara go up against the Furies, maybe have a love/hate trust/mistrust relationship with Barda (and a love triangle involving Scott).
    I don't know how I'd feel about that (especially since we all know/want Kara to lose in that situation) .

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    I was sad that Anne Dudek as Tracy Brand didn't stick around after H.R.'s death. She's a very good actress. They seem to have a tough time keeping any women on this show--it's a real sausage party.

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    In honour of Hazard coming to the Flash, I made some fanart. I made my version more like closer to a mix of her Grandfathers look, and her Modern look.
    I hope she doesn't become a villain of the week for just an episode. After reading everything she is in, she's a fairly complex character.
    Anyway, Here's Rebecca Sharpe aka Hazard, the Casino Woman.




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    Two more.



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    well damn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Iris is a reporter (not that I think a reporter's salary is much to talk about) and now Caitlin is a bartender, so they also have jobs.

    I just assume Thawne/Wells' fortune, that he probably willed to Barry after his death alongside STAR Labs, is what's keeping the group funded and able to afford living expenses
    Caitlin quit, remember. She went all Killer Frost when the guy from the bar tried to intimidate her into staying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I have a feeling Thinker's Metron-apparatus (which is probably just a modernized and expanded version of his thinking cap in the comics) is just a prelude to him going full-digital like he did in the comics.
    A ghost in the machine. What show using a computer controlled base would be complete without it being used against the main characters, who need to work around the measures meant to protect them? Even Arrow did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
    Two more.



    Not bad. Except her lower legs look out of proportion to the rest. Could maybe bring the inner thighs closer in a thigh gap to match the outside also .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90'sCartoonMan View Post
    Cisco and Wally must really be stuck in that sidekick role if Iris is the one calling shots. It was more like Team Iris than Team Kid Flash or Team Vibe. I'm kind of disappointed considering I was really hoping for an intro with Wally and maybe Wally considering either trying to take the place of the Flash or just announce that the Flash is dead and Kid Flash is going to protect Central City as the new Flash.
    I think that was more of a case for the story in trying to show Iris embracing and holding onto the "keep running" words after the loss of Barry than an accurate account of things. The way i saw it was instead of dealing with the Barry situation she put everything into moving forward to an extreme. Could be the rest of the team gave her some room as well understanding the situation she was in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan Preskovsky View Post
    The first season of Buffy is hardly representative of its greatness. I rewatch the show all the time and it's simply on a whole other level to these CW shows. I'm certainly not talking about the VFX, obviously, but the depth of storytelling and characterization is still years ahead of the Arrowverse shows.
    Buffy is my all-time favorite series and so maybe i'm biased but i don't think anything is on it's level. I don't even get the need to compare it to anything. Buffy/Angel is in a league of it's own. If i was comparing everything to it i would simply be setting those things up for failure. That doesn't mean everything else is bad or i can't enjoy anything else, it's just a different level or universe or whatever.... is all.

    There isn't really any true definitive "good" or "bad" in art anyway. An attempt at lining all of the various series up and judging them by comparison would be futile. It's more about the individual connection to the art than the art being good or bad.

    (Which is why "professional" critics are pretty much a joke that some people haven't figured out yet, but... that's a different story)
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    Such a classic Flash move.
    Stick "we work together and we get out of here alive"

    Matt "peace out suckas"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SXVA View Post
    Not bad. Except her lower legs look out of proportion to the rest. Could maybe bring the inner thighs closer in a thigh gap to match the outside also .
    Could be the pose also. But I'm a fan of hippy women. You mean her thighs to wide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
    Could be the pose also. But I'm a fan of hippy women. You mean her thighs to wide?
    Could be the pose. True. With the shape of the outer thighs to me it would seem that the inner thighs would be closer though with more curve.

    Something like this on a curvy body type, like how the inner thighs come closer but then there's a gap still http://i.imgur.com/RtlBXfu.png (bikini type bottoms warning if that's something NSFW)

    Inner curves more proportionate with the outer to my view there.
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