The FLASH TV SERIES

[Jim Kelly]

But in the comics, Barry never had a chin guard until recently, so the lack of chin thing makes it look more comic accurate to me. I always liked the way Carmine Infantino and Joe Giella drew the cowl, and this looks similar to that. Anyway, I believe they've indicated the chin warmer will be returning at some point in the season--so those that like it will be happy, and I'll be disgruntled.

[Frontier]

But in the comics, Barry never had a chin guard until recently, so the lack of chin thing makes it look more comic accurate to me. I always liked the way Carmine Infantino and Joe Giella drew the cowl, and this looks similar to that. Anyway, I believe they've indicated the chin warmer will be returning at some point in the season--so those that like it will be happy, and I'll be disgruntled.

It is definitely more comic accurate, but after several seasons of the live action suit having a chin strap, it's kind of jarring seeing a costume without it .

[Jim Kelly]

In live action, it's hard for me not to think about the actors who have to wear these suits, and the chin guard always made me wonder how uncomfortable that must be and how hard it is to act while you have this thing on your chin.

[Styles]

‘America’s Got Talent’ Contortionist Cast as Rag Doll

[Nate Grey]

‘America’s Got Talent’ Contortionist Cast as Rag Doll

Looks cool. Also the very next ep after this one ("All Doll'd Up") will be called "The Icicle Cometh" which is were we'll meet Caitlin's father. Given the title I'm guessing he'll be some sort of re-working of The Icicle.

[Jim Kelly]

The problem for the Rogues Gallery is the show gives a few villains the chance to shine over several episodes, while others only get one episode and they're done. Cicada and Icicle will probably have enough time to develop their characters, but I worry that Rag Doll will be only there as a villain of the week--and Rag Doll (like Shade) should have a whole season.

[Osiris-Rex]

The problem for the Rogues Gallery is the show gives a few villains the chance to shine over several episodes, while others only get one episode and they're done. Cicada and Icicle will probably have enough time to develop their characters, but I worry that Rag Doll will be only there as a villain of the week--and Rag Doll (like Shade) should have a whole season.

I think what would be better is if they are going to do 23 episodes a season, instead of having one season long villain with some villain of the weeks thrown in, is to do a four to six episode story on one villain and then
move onto another villain so we end up with four or five villain stories each season. Then we don't get bored with dragging out the main villain all season and we get a good character development for each villain.

[Frontier]

The problem for the Rogues Gallery is the show gives a few villains the chance to shine over several episodes, while others only get one episode and they're done. Cicada and Icicle will probably have enough time to develop their characters, but I worry that Rag Doll will be only there as a villain of the week--and Rag Doll (like Shade) should have a whole season.

Well, we're supposed to be getting a new version of The Rogues this season, so maybe that can help bolster the show's villain development.

The Rogues are probably one of the biggest elements of the Flash mythos that they've bungled.

[The Cool Thatguy]

Well, we're supposed to be getting a new version of The Rogues this season, so maybe that can help bolster the show's villain development.

The Rogues are probably one of the biggest elements of the Flash mythos that they've bungled.

In fairness, it's a hard idea to execute in live action. Low level repeat villains aren't much of a thing in live shows.

[AJBopp]

Better look at the new suit:

This looks much more natural and comfortable than what they've been using. To bad I have no faith in them to carry out a story over 23 episodes. Don't expect to watch this season.

[Frontier]

In fairness, it's a hard idea to execute in live action. Low level repeat villains aren't much of a thing in live shows.

I mean, they were building up to Cold having his own gang of criminals and evil Metahumans back in season 1, but it got completely dropped as they moved him and Heat Wave onto Legends.

Then they had Mirror Master and Top as the "New Rogues" but didn't really do anything with that.

The show hasn't really had it's big "Rogues" episode yet, which was something the John Wesley Shipp show was planning to do for it's season 2 premier.

[Jim Kelly]

So what does everyone think about the crossover being "Elseworlds?"

[Frontier]

So what does everyone think about the crossover being "Elseworlds?"

It implies to me that Batwoman might be on her own Earth instead of Supergirl's, or that at the very least different dimensions and worlds will be a big part of the crossover.

[Jim Kelly]

I wonder if all the shows will have their cliffhanger ending for the break the week before and then this crossover will be totally out of continuity or if FLASH will serve to introduce the other Elseworlds. And if it's plural, does that mean we'll see more than one other world?

If the Batwoman world is a different Earth--everyone else could die by the end of the crossover (including Bruce Wayne?), leaving Batwoman alone on her world to fight crime.

[Styles]

Barry uses the Flash ring!