Who do you consider the top 3 most intelligent humans

[Chief Jon]

Doom, Pym and Richards. In that order. Easily.

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Reed, Doom and Stark

[Iron Maiden]

The highest and broadest forms of intelligence:
1) Doom
2) T'challa
3) Richards

Reed is often put as equal or superior to Doom and in sheer scientific skill and understanding that is obviously true, but Doom is a renaissance man. He is a genius in many things Reed can't even begin to fathom (magic, for one), simply hasn't explored (arts, fencing and other martial skills) or is just not that great at compared to others (field strategy, psychology, the sort). Doom is more than capable of keeping up with (and, at times, triumph over) Reed's science and has all of that, which firmy cements his overall intelligence as greater.

T'challa is next for the same reason: he is far more versatile and still capable of super science. Though Reed will usually out-science him, the spectrum of his 'genius level intellect' is far more broad. Reed's specialty is very, very versatile and varied since it's just 'super-science' (unlike Banner with radiation, McCoy with mostly biology and Stark with weaponry/armor-tech), but he's still a specialist

This would be my list except I would put T'Challa third. But the margin between Reed and Doom would be very slim. I think it's because we've seen Reed do a lot more over the years than with T'Challa. Many times it's his skills at H2H that get played up more than his other accomplishments.

Over the years some writers have tried to draw just as close a link with T'Challa and Doom. It's not that T'Challa lacks scruples but as we've seen recently he can be almost as ruthless as Doom. T'Challa is a relative newcomer when it comes to the mystic arts and Doom's studies in that field have been over a longer period of time. And he has tapped into resources where Doctor Strange has feared to tread. A lot of votes have gone to Valeria but I have to wonder just where he preternatual IQ comes from and then I remembered who delivered her safely when Reed could not.

[Random4]

This would be my list except I would put T'Challa third. But the margin between Reed and Doom would be very slim. I think it's because we've seen Reed do a lot more over the years than with T'Challa. Many times it's his skills at H2H that get played up more than his other accomplishments.

Over the years some writers have tried to draw just as close a link with T'Challa and Doom. It's not that T'Challa lacks scruples but as we've seen recently he can be almost as ruthless as Doom. T'Challa is a relative newcomer when it comes to the mystic arts and his studies in that field have been over a longer period of time. And he has tapped into resources where Doctor Strange has feared to tread. A lot of votes have gone to Valeria but I have to wonder just where he preternatual IQ comes from and then I remembered who delivered her safely when Reed could not.

polymaths arn't necessary more intelligent then people who specialize.

T'challa is brilliant, but you can't put him above Reed or Doom

[Maven]

1. Reed
2. Doom (but as noted, there is a very, VERY slim margin between Reed and Doom's intellects...all the more reason their rivalry is my utmost favorite of all such things in the MU.)
3. Robert Down...er, Tony Stark.

[rgx]

Reed Richards≥Victor Von Doom>Henry Pym. IMO

[Loki Oathbreaker]

polymaths arn't necessary more intelligent then people who specialize.

T'challa is brilliant, but you can't put him above Reed or Doom

Not necessarily more intelligent, but they apply their intelligence on a broader spectrum, which should also be taken into consideration. I put T'challa above Reed because of skill versatility -- pure raw efficiency brain 'output' goes to first Doom, then Reed. But intelligence isn't just the IQ and being able to apply that intelligence to many different things should also be a factor. T'challa may not be quite as versatile as Doom, nor does he have as many showings of that same versatility, but he has many more ways of practically applying his intelligence than Reed.

[Random4]

Not necessarily more intelligent, but they apply their intelligence on a broader spectrum, which should also be taken into consideration. I put T'challa above Reed because of skill versatility -- pure raw efficiency brain 'output' goes to first Doom, then Reed. But intelligence isn't just the IQ and being able to apply that intelligence to many different things should also be a factor. T'challa may not be quite as versatile as Doom, nor does he have as many showings of that same versatility, but he has many more ways of practically applying his intelligence than Reed.

i disagree with you

in term of raw brain power reed is above t'challa

and in terms of application reed has WAY WAY WAY more feats than t'challa.... so i just cant see t'challa being above reed, and judging by most people who have reed as number 1 or 2 on their lists..

i just can't, t'challa being 3rd makes sense though

[XPac]

i disagree with you

in term of raw brain power reed is above t'challa

and in terms of application reed has WAY WAY WAY more feats than t'challa.... so i just cant see t'challa being above reed, and judging by most people who have reed as number 1 or 2 on their lists..

i just can't, t'challa being 3rd makes sense though

The books essentially flat out tell us that Reed is the smartest super hero. I don't think that can even really be debated. It's no secret.

[XPac]

i disagree with you

in term of raw brain power reed is above t'challa

and in terms of application reed has WAY WAY WAY more feats than t'challa.... so i just cant see t'challa being above reed, and judging by most people who have reed as number 1 or 2 on their lists..

i just can't, t'challa being 3rd makes sense though

For what it's worth, T'Challa labeled himself the 8th smartest. Though such labels are hardly official or anything.

I personally think that sounds a little low.

[xcoijoi]

Doom, Reed, Banner, and Stark.

However, in Original Sin, they forgot to reveal that Reed has been using an alien ray gun, to limit Doom's intellect, out of jealousy. Same with Peter Parker. I'm sure they will cover it, soon.

[Loki Oathbreaker]

i disagree with you

in term of raw brain power reed is above t'challa

and in terms of application reed has WAY WAY WAY more feats than t'challa.... so i just cant see t'challa being above reed, and judging by most people who have reed as number 1 or 2 on their lists..

i just can't, t'challa being 3rd makes sense though

I said the same thing regarding raw brain power. :P

That said, I think I may have to clarify regarding what I meant with 'practically applying'. I don't mean build a gizmo to save the say -- yes, Reed has done that. A lot. Far more than T'challa. T'challa, however, has proven himself a highly skilled detective, investigator (in the private eye/police sense), is a supremely skilled tactician, spy, leader and of course among the top tier martial artists. In short, as I've said before: a polymath. Reed's IQ is obviously higher, but he's very much the aloof scientist type and lacks both emotional and social intelligence.

... hmm, that makes me want to see him face off against Zemo sometime. Another polymath-ish character, though not quite as high up in the scientific mind department.

[Tofali]

1. Black Panther
2. Mr. Fantastic
3. Doctor Doom

[Iron Maiden]

Doom, Reed, Banner, and Stark.

However, in Original Sin, they forgot to reveal that Reed has been using an alien ray gun, to limit Doom's intellect, out of jealousy. Same with Peter Parker. I'm sure they will cover it, soon.

LOL. In Grant Morrison's FF 1234 mini, he had Reed admit that the cosmic rays did give him a boost in his thought processes to where he could "stretch" his mind. Even though that story is not in continuity, it still makes you wonder if Reed possibly changed in other ways too.

When they were in college Victor did make Reed appear to be a bit of a slacker and not as focused. Victor already had begun work on his time platform and the device that injured him was something even Reed admitted was "far out stuff". Considering that Doom came from a dirt poor family and Reed was the son of a multimillionaire it makes you wonder what he would have done with more resources at a younger age. In fact Stark and T'Challa had a far more privileged lifestyle too and came from wealthy backgrounds.

[Tofali]

The egomaniacal Doom gave himself the title Doctor without earning a doctorate just because he saw Reed in a newscast and ordered to be addressed as a doctor from then on.