Battle of the superclones!

[seaturkey]

Shazam vs Black Adam vs supreme vs Prime vs Invincible vs Omniman vs Miracle Man vs Hyperion vs Sentry vs Mr. Majestic

Who comes out on top of this mess?

[Shai-Hulud]

In the current Avengers/New Avengers run, we have Hyperion survive an incursion event. That is, two universes collide and everything is wiped out, including, presumably the Celestials and Galactuses (Galacti?) of those universes.

If that's considered valid high-end feat, then Hyperion may take this on the basis of insane durability.

[big_adventure]

Shazam vs Black Adam vs supreme vs Prime vs Invincible vs Omniman vs Miracle Man vs Hyperion vs Sentry vs Mr. Majestic

Who comes out on top of this mess?

Sentry or Majestic - probably the first, due to his unkillable-ness and ability to LOLnope/screwyou to freaking Molecule Man.

[big_adventure]

In the current Avengers/New Avengers run, we have Hyperion survive an incursion event. That is, two universes collide and everything is wiped out, including, presumably the Celestials and Galactuses (Galacti?) of those universes.

If that's considered valid high-end feat, then Hyperion may take this on the basis of insane durability.

Nah, he's a planet-buster and has planet-buster-ish durability, but he didn't definitively take any force beyond that. He got ripped out of that verse by AIM, so we don't know what happened after. Starbrand dropped him (and everyone else who showed up) like a bad habit.

[Shai-Hulud]

Nah, he's a planet-buster and has planet-buster-ish durability, but he didn't definitively take any force beyond that. He got ripped out of that verse by AIM, so we don't know what happened after. Starbrand dropped him (and everyone else who showed up) like a bad habit.

But he did survive an incursion event, right?

Wouldn't that count as a high-end feat for universe-busting durability rather than "merely" planet-busting durability?

Or are you saying we don't know that he survived the raw collision of incursion itself?

[big_adventure]

But he did survive an incursion event, right?

Wouldn't that count as a high-end feat for universe-busting durability rather than "merely" planet-busting durability?

No, because he survived enough force to destroy Earth. Nobody shot him in the chest with a universe-buster or anything.

To make it simple(-ish):

Surviving a planet you live on being destroyed is NOT the same thing as taking a punch from a planet-buster in the face. It's dozens of orders of magnitude lower, since the first situation just has you taking the residual forces of the omnidirectional blast only on the surface area it hits you, and the second has you taking ALL of that force in a small area (your face).

To add to this - other tough hero types were annihilated, plus he has two planet-moving/busting strength feats and nothing against it. He's a planet-buster with similar durability. But not more than that - and Sentry is significantly above that, before you get to Molecule Man-trumping matter/reality manipulation.

[Shai-Hulud]

No, because he survived enough force to destroy Earth. Nobody shot him in the chest with a universe-buster or anything.

To make it simple(-ish):

Surviving a planet you live on being destroyed is NOT the same thing as taking a punch from a planet-buster in the face. It's dozens of orders of magnitude lower, since the first situation just has you taking the residual forces of the omnidirectional blast only on the surface area it hits you, and the second has you taking ALL of that force in a small area (your face).

To add to this - other tough hero types were annihilated, plus he has two planet-moving/busting strength feats and nothing against it. He's a planet-buster with similar durability. But not more than that - and Sentry is significantly above that, before you get to Molecule Man-trumping matter/reality manipulation.

I'll grant that Sentry beats Hype.

But what really interests me is how we're regarding this particular Hyperion feat.

Specifically: what do we make of the fact that all of his earth's cosmic types were annihilated? Wouldn't that imply that Hyperion survived something his universe's Celestials and Galactus could not?

[The Chou Lives]

Note; Hyperion survived as mentioned because he got zapped in by AIM. Not survivng universe collapse and somehow willed himself into Marvel.

And if Galactus were sturck there he would die because Galactus *NEEDS* planets to eat.

And Celestials I thought exist outside normal time/space/multidimensional/multi universe as their are so few in number, but are crazy strong in their affairs.

Sentry should be able to due it due to time shift super speed and molecular powers.

[Shai-Hulud]

Note; Hyperion survived as mentioned because he got zapped in by AIM. Not survivng universe collapse and somehow willed himself into Marvel.

The scan says "Everything died. Everything... except him. He floated in nothingness, lost and sick with loss, until he was found and pulled into another universe."

My reading of the given narration is: First everything dies, he survives, then he floats in nothingness, and only then is found by AIM. They didn't suck him out before the incursion; the incursion happened, he survived, floated in nothingness, then AIM grabs him.

[big_adventure]

The scan says "Everything died. Everything... except him. He floated in nothingness, lost and sick with loss, until he was found and pulled into another universe."

My reading of the given narration is: First everything dies, he survives, then he floats in nothingness, and only then is found by AIM. They didn't suck him out before the incursion; the incursion happened, he survived, floated in nothingness, then AIM grabs him.

Thing is, we know literally nothing about that universe. We don't know if there even were cosmics to die. Also, the universe being destroyed would be enough to ice most cosmics as they are part of the fabric of said universe, even if they are tougher than the actual physical force that hits them. Once again - the damage he took and tanked there was absolutely "planet-buster" or slightly more (given that he pushed apart two moving planets with his hands), but nothing at all like laughing off a universe-buster in the schnoz.