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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    I have no idea why, not only does nothing here suggest it, but further that part of the story has already been told. He doesn't rape her. They spar then have consensual sex.

    Only thing this preview seems to suggest is that his arrival was well-timed in that he knows she's yearning for a child at the time.
    He's lurching behind her in an extremely sinister fashion. Given the context it's hard to imagine anything else that would be suggesting.

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    The context must take into consideration that we already know he doesn't rape her. Again we've been told that already. How is it hard not to imagine what we already know concretely does NOT occur?

    I don't know if you're just hoping the facts are changed to give another reason to complain about the run or something, but Hippolyta isn't raped. This has been a confirmed fact told in the very first year of this run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borntohula View Post
    http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=47357

    "--in this new origin, will no longer be formed from clay. (Morrison said that aspect of that character was "creepy" and made her "too remote.")"

    Have no idea. Will perhaps need to listen to the Kevin Smith podcast with him.
    Clay origins came about when clay and pottery were some of the most important things to human civilisations. Likewise wood/tree origins. There's a sort of "we come from the clay, we shape the clay, we return to the clay" thing, which is part of that "we are all connected, all is one" view.

    Being used in a time for an Amazon civilisation which is past clay and instead advanced, for an individual and not everyone, gets the myth wrong and Morrison, as someone who has a pretty good understanding of myth, obviously will have a problem with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    I don't know if you're just hoping the facts are changed to give another reason to complain about the run or something, but Hippolyta isn't raped. This has been a confirmed fact told in the very first year of this run.
    People do that here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    The context must take into consideration that we already know he doesn't rape her. Again we've been told that already. How is it hard not to imagine what we already know concretely does NOT occur?

    I don't know if you're just hoping the facts are changed to give another reason to complain about the run or something, but Hippolyta isn't raped. This has been a confirmed fact told in the very first year of this run.
    Okay in this scene we see Hippolyta praying to the Goddesses to give her a child. Then we see Zeus appear lurching over her in an extremely sinister fashion. We can only assume he's there with malicious intent. In this case grant her wish, but in a cruel twist that she doesn't want. Essentially having sex with her against her will.

    In the other comic we saw the two of them fighting then Hippolyta apparently willingly having sex with Zeus after. So far we only have Hippolyta's word on how this went down though. It's entirely possible that she lied in order to hide further shame. Hippolyta's lack of consent would have made no difference to Hera, and would have just made Diana feel even worse.

    Lets assume she's not lying though. It isn't a lot better in that situation there either. Before they were engaged in combat for unknown reasons and then in the heat of passion had sex. This isn't an objectionable situation. Now we know that he came there with the intent of having sex with her, and judging by the picture in a malicious manner. Like I said we won't know for sure till we've seen the whole thing, but judging by this preview I would guess that the fight would have started from her trying to ward off his advances. She would have no interest in betraying her patron goddess like that. Then through physical confrontation he "makes" her want to have sex with him. We could try and look at in the context of fighting being like flirting for the Amazons, but still this whole situation is beyond problematic.

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    Azzarello has explicitly said a couple of years ago in an interview that there was none of that and he was shocked people believed Hippolyta had been raped, when Diana was conceived with LOVE (his words).

    And if you read the issue, they kiss right after that scene, in the same place. It's kinda figurative.

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