Game of Thrones

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

I would have liked a quick scene of a faceless Arya slipping past White Walkers, but I think that would prolly kill the dramatic imagery of her stabbing the Night's King.

There's also so much interpretation as to what the hell she exactly went through in the House of the Black and White. What exactly she is, and all that jazz.

I prefer the ambiguity.

The actually do show a shot of a gist of wind brushing past a White Walker and him noticing that something just ran past him

[Punisher007]

why?

I don't mind it, it's very tragic, but why besides that?

-Cersei prophecy implies that a "little brother" will kill her.

-Jamie killed the Mad King to save the realm, so him having to kill the Mad Queen to save the realm would be poetic. Heck Cersei did the thing that Jamie killed the Mad King to prevent, use Wildfire to blow up part of King's Landing and kill a bunch of people at the end of S6.

-Jamie's love for Cersei is his greatest flaw. In the pilot, he tried to murder a child to protect her. So him killing her to end her madness is also poetic.

-It completes his redemption arc, whether he dies in the process or not.

-Etc.

Sorry but I'm not seeing how Arya doing it makes more sense then this. Heck Sansa doing it would make more sense than Arya even. I don't care about "being subversive" for its own sake, I want the option that makes sense and fits with the build-up. And if that's the "predictable" one, then so be it.

[stargazer01]

-Cersei prophecy implies that a "little brother" will kill her.

-Jamie killed the Mad King to save the realm, so him having to kill the Mad Queen to save the realm would be poetic. Heck Cersei did the thing that Jamie killed the Mad King to prevent, use Wildfire to blow up part of King's Landing and kill a bunch of people at the end of S6.

-Jamie's love for Cersei is his greatest flaw. In the pilot, he tried to murder a child to protect her. So him killing her to end her madness is also poetic.

-It completes his redemption arc, whether he dies in the process or not.

-Etc.

Sorry but I'm not seeing how Arya doing it makes more sense then this. Heck Sansa doing it would make more sense than Arya even. I don't care about "being subversive" for its own sake, I want the option that makes sense and fits with the build-up. And if that's the "predictable" one, then so be it.

it's ok to disagree, we are allowed to a different opinion.

To me Jamie tried to kill Bran to protect both him and Cersei. And Arya saw her own father being decapitated and she always wanted to take revenge on the Lannisters. There is more than just one way to kill Cersei and be satisfying. But many didn't feel that with Arya killing the NK.

[Star_Jammer]

it's ok to disagree, we are allowed to a different opinion.

To me Jamie tried to kill Bran to protect both him and Cersei. And Arya saw her own father being decapitated and she always wanted to take revenge on the Lannisters. There is more than just one way to kill Cersei and be satisfying. But many didn't feel that with Arya killing the NK.

And many are satisfied with Arya’s Night King kill. So...square one?

[soccerguy951]

And many are satisfied with Arya’s Night King kill. So...square one?

The point is, if say 50% of the audience is disappointed with the ending, then that probably wasn’t the response the directors desired. Take for example a movie, that only 50% of the critics or audience liked. That movie is usually not regarded as being a success.

Also, a lot of people are upset that the Night King was killed in this episode and Cersei being the “main boss” and feel letdown with the result of the story of the white walkers in general.

[Star_Jammer]

The point is, if say 50% of the audience is disappointed with the ending, then that probably wasn’t the response the directors desired. Take for example a movie, that only 50% of the critics or audience liked. That movie is usually not regarded as being a success.

Also, a lot of people are upset that the Night King was killed in this episode and Cersei being the “main boss” and feel letdown with the result of the story of the white walkers in general.

50% is just an asspull guess at this point, though.

[AndrewCrossett]

50% may be an accurate number for this forum, but not for the fandom at large from what I've seen.

[Havok83]

Not Today has been WILDLY popular this past week. I think Arya's moment has been an overall win

[Star_Jammer]

50% may be an accurate number for this forum, but not for the fandom at large from what I've seen.

Another forum I visit seems overwhelmingly in favor of the topic (as compared to here, at least).

It's important to remember that anecdotal evidence isn't really evidence.

[soccerguy951]

50% is just an asspull guess at this point, though.

Of course we don’t know the actual number, but there’s been lots of disappointment with episode. Not saying it doesn’t have its fans, but there a large number of critics as well. Don’t think that’s really debatable. Go to YouTube and search for “game of thrones episode 3 disappointment”. You’ll see a whole list of ongoing rants about the episode.

What was that forum you were referencing, I’m sure there are some topics with people not happy with episode.

This episode was not as well received as battles such as “Battle of the Bastards”, “Hardhome”, “Watchers on the Wall”. There wasn’t a backlash after those episodes.

[Flash Gordon]

The point is, if say 50% of the audience is disappointed with the ending, then that probably wasn’t the response the directors desired. Take for example a movie, that only 50% of the critics or audience liked. That movie is usually not regarded as being a success.

Also, a lot of people are upset that the Night King was killed in this episode and Cersei being the “main boss” and feel letdown with the result of the story of the white walkers in general.

That's nonsense numbers.

The Night King, luckily, was never what this show was about.

[soccerguy951]

That's nonsense numbers.

The Night King, luckily, was never what this show was about.

I’m not saying it was 50%, hence the wording “say 50%”. It could be 60 to 40, 70 tp 30 or whatever. I was throwing out any number to show that a large number of critics as well as fans is not a good thing for the episode. All I’m seeing is debates like in our forum, going back and forth on the episode, which is not the mark of a great episode.

Better yet, just google “episode 3 disappointment” and see the list the displays.

[stillanerd]

Arya never kills the Night King if not for Jon being willing to sacrifice himself. I like many missed it the first viewing but when Jon stands up in front of the dragon he is screaming "Go, go, gooooooooo!" And then we see Arya breezing past the wights and killing the Night King. They didn't show it because it would have given away the surprise but Jon must have seen Arya also trying to get past the dragon and realized that the only way either of them get past is if one distracts the dragon so Jon did this. Arya still gets credit for the killing blow but Jon clearly gets an assist.

Yeah, I've read that same theory and rewatched that scene, and honestly, I think it's a lot of wishful thinking on fans part looking for something to hang their "Jon should've killed the Night King" hat on. Really, it basically boils down to the idea that, while Azor Ahai is responsible for confronting and ending the Long Night, the prophecy never specifically states he or she is the one who will kill the Night King. Basically, he or she is the one who will bring all of humanity together to combat the darkness.

However, there is still one part of the Azor Ahai legend that has not been fulfilled yet...but the series is already setting it up for it being fulfilled.

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

My complaint was never about Arya killing NK. It's everything else that bugs me.

[Madam-Shogun-Assassin]

The Night King, luckily, was never what this show was about.

It probably was, until it wasn't.