Game of Thrones

[areacode212]

Continued from the GoT thread from the old forums.

So, regarding the latest episode ("Oathkeeper"), I wasn't crazy about the fact that Margaery is supposedly surprised that Olenna was part of the plot to kill Joffrey, because I always assumed that Marge was also in on it. In fact, since she was actually closest to the cup while Joffrey cut open the pigeon pie, I figured that Olenna had passed the poison to Margaery at some point during the feast, then Marge herself put the poison in.

Evil Burn Gorman being evil and drinking from Mormont's skull was pretty great, though after all of last episode's rape controversy and the weeklong Internet firestorm, I really could have done without seeing more of that at Craster's.

Was very happy to see Michelle MacLaren's name at the beginning of the episode--visually, the episode looked great, especially the opening scene with Grey Worm and Missandei.

[Nyssane]

I was a bit surprised by Margaery not knowing, as well. However, I'm not sure how willing she would've been to poison Joffrey. Yeah, he was a horrible, horrible person, but she's willing to do anything to get a baby and become queen. She put a lot of time and effort into charming Joffrey. That said, Tommen will certainly be easier (and safer).

I could've done without the rape at Craster's, too. I have endless waves of sympathy for the Craster women... their lives are utter crap.

there needs to be a disclaimer before this show starts, if you are a Sensitive Sally, please switch the channel to Revenge on ABC

There's no need for any of that.

[Forseti]

I was more surprised by Olenna telling Margaery of her involvement than Margaery not knowing about it at all. When it comes to regicide, I wouldn't want to involve more people than strictly necessary and I certainly wouldn't want to unnecessarily burden someone with such knowledge after the fact.

[Joker]

I was surprised they didn't drag out the who-done-it longer.

[areacode212]

I was a bit surprised by Margaery not knowing, as well. However, I'm not sure how willing she would've been to poison Joffrey. Yeah, he was a horrible, horrible person, but she's willing to do anything to get a baby and become queen. She put a lot of time and effort into charming Joffrey. That said, Tommen will certainly be easier (and safer).

When I read the books, I interpreted it as being that the plan all along was for Margaery to end up marrying Tommen. Even in the show, last season, when Sansa told them that Joffrey was a monster, and Olenna & Marge shared that glance, it came off like they were going to plan something. Her charming Joffrey was just her way of a) keeping him happy until the wedding, and b) throwing suspicion off herself.

[Vibranium]

I like Margaery...a lot

she seems a bit more fleshed out in the show than in the books...or at least fleshed out earlier

[Legato]

I know I should never get attached to the characters but....I don't want anything bad to happen to Hodor!!!

[MikeP]

I know I should never get attached to the characters but....I don't want anything bad to happen to Hodor!!!

SHHHH never say those things aloud. Have you learned nothing of GRRM?

[ILLUS]

The biggest problem with every episode is they are too damn short. I feel like they either need to slow it all down and give us at least 20 eps a season or each ep should be 2 hours. In reality it could be two shows a week. one on Westeros and the other across the sea with dragons.

I was a bit surprised Olenna revealed herself. But I guess she had to convince Margaery to do her thing to seduce the kid.

Sadly this Sunday is the 5th ep and that means the season is half over already. UGH

[lancerman]

GRRM already locked himself in a room with the creators and outlined the end of the series. They paid for the rights to the whole series, not just what Martin had already written. They already expressed they are doing the real ending, the way they get there might be different, but the major plot points will be intact. Martin's known the ending for years, he's just gotten himself stuck in writing conundrums and had to figure his way out of them.

But he's always had the three major phases of the series in his head. It was originally supposed to be a trilogy.

1. The War of the Five King's
2. The New Targaryen Conquest of Westeros
3. The War with the Others.

He just got really side tracked with the first part and let it go on into it's own trilogy, and had to write his way out of the mess it made in the last two books. Now he's finally on to the final two books, which he always intended to be the final two of the series.

[Hazard]

He just got really side tracked with the first part and let it go on into it's own trilogy, and had to write his way out of the mess it made in the last two books. Now he's finally on to the final two books, which he always intended to be the final two of the series.

The last two books which we know won't actually be two

Seriously, I'll eat my hat if he really does it in two, and I don't even own one; so I'll by buying a hat just to eat it.

[Crimson Knight]

LOL! I used to be attached to the character for weeks after watching it.

For me, it'd be Jon and Tyrion. Just relieved that Snow's made it to the end of 4 Seasons now, despite how very close he got to death in the last two Season 4 episodes.

And, if the shortest, smartest Lannister were to die... I would be crying. I hope he makes it to Season 6, not sure Jon will, not due to Nights' Watch, or Wildlings, or Mace Raydar, but Melisandre, Stannis and those.

Seems an alliance bound to make things worse, ultimately, even if cooling for now.

[Crimson Knight]

Sophie Turner on Baelish Littlefinger and Sansa Stark in Season 5:

http://screenrant.com/game-thrones-s...sophie-turner/

[the_coldest_sun]

For me, it'd be Jon and Tyrion. Just relieved that Snow's made it to the end of 4 Seasons now, despite how very close he got to death in the last two Season 4 episodes.

And, if the shortest, smartest Lannister were to die... I would be crying. I hope he makes it to Season 6, not sure Jon will, not due to Nights' Watch, or Wildlings, or Mace Raydar, but Melisandre, Stannis and those.

Seems an alliance bound to make things worse, ultimately, even if cooling for now.

I know how you feel! Last season, when we saw the Dragonstone crew at Castle Black, I was checking the list of characters visible. There was Stannis & Davos of course coming in with the army, check; Stannis' wife and daughter up on the balcony, check; so where's Melis...? Oh there she is, staring ominously at Jon through the bonfire. YIKES!

I didn't like the look of that one bit.

I can see Davos and Jon getting along, I hope.

[hulahulk]

Yes she does. And apparently the actress is a marathon runner. Kudos to her.

I have to say, the direction the Brann plotline is going is more interesting than what I've read in the books. And, regarding the books, it seems like forever I read a page from them. I had to go to the Wiki pages to refresh my memory.