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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsay Snow View Post
    I remember him being disrespectful toward Jon Snow early in the series.
    Agree with the rest of your post, but come on... just about everyone treats Jon Snow like crap.
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    Has anyone seen the Denial version of the Mountain vs the Red Viper on youtube. It is pretty hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsay Snow View Post
    Theon's a prick
    Correction, Theon had a prick.

    Carry on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saul_on_the_road_to_damascus View Post
    Has anyone seen the Denial version of the Mountain vs the Red Viper on youtube. It is pretty hilarious.
    Funny AND it helps to ease the pain a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spear of Bashenga View Post
    Agree with the rest of your post, but come on... just about everyone treats Jon Snow like crap.
    As if that bit of hyperbole is an excuse. The people who treated Jon Snow like crap were either enemies or pricks (Theon included in the latter).

    His stepmother, as well, but she had her own reasons for it.

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    and just to remind people, there is no revenge to be had

    this was a trial by combat and Oberyn volunteered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibranium View Post
    and just to remind people, there is no revenge to be had

    this was a trial by combat and Oberyn volunteered
    The Mountain's public confession might trigger (more) revenge for Ella Martell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsay Snow View Post
    As if that bit of hyperbole is an excuse. The people who treated Jon Snow like crap were either enemies or pricks (Theon included in the latter).

    His stepmother, as well, but she had her own reasons for it.
    Sansa hardly even acknowledges him. I think she mentions him like three times in the entire series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    The Mountain's public confession might trigger (more) revenge for Ella Martell.
    Not really. Oberyn died in a "fair fight" and everyone pretty much knew what the Mountain had done, anyway. The key point was trying to finger Tywin Lannister as the guy that gave the order, and the Mountain didn't do that...only admitted his personal responsibility.

    So Dorne will still want the Mountain dead (if he isn't), but it's unlikely they're going to war against the Lannisters over it. Any repercussions would probably have to be subtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmacq1 View Post
    Not really. Oberyn died in a "fair fight" and everyone pretty much knew what the Mountain had done, anyway. The key point was trying to finger Tywin Lannister as the guy that gave the order, and the Mountain didn't do that...only admitted his personal responsibility.

    So Dorne will still want the Mountain dead (if he isn't), but it's unlikely they're going to war against the Lannisters over it. Any repercussions would probably have to be subtle.
    People tend to be less than rational when their brother is brutally killed, especially if the guy killing him is boasting about how he killed your nephews and killed and raped your sister at the time.

    Tywin wants/needs the Martells back into his alliance, and no way is that happening now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    People tend to be less than rational when their brother is brutally killed, especially if the guy killing him is boasting about how he killed your nephews and killed and raped your sister at the time.

    Tywin wants/needs the Martells back into his alliance, and no way is that happening now.
    You assume a lot. As I said, the repercussions would be more subtle than simply snubbing the Lannisters.

    For all folks-who-haven't-read-the-books know, Oberyn was the black sheep/outlier of his family, and they're not all fiery revenge-seekers like he was. They may be just as opportunistic as the Tyrells, and see Oberyn's death as a good way to draw concessions out of Tywin Lannister to secure a favorable alliance for them.

    Loyalty and honor don't count for much in the Game of Thrones, after all, and those that cling too strongly to them seem to have a habit of ending up dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    People tend to be less than rational when their brother is brutally killed, especially if the guy killing him is boasting about how he killed your nephews and killed and raped your sister at the time.

    Tywin wants/needs the Martells back into his alliance, and no way is that happening now.
    yeah it is...because Prince Doran will do as he's told, and that relationship goes both ways

    Martells need access to the ports in Kings Landing and trade, and that's worth a lot more than one Prince who foolishly sought revenge against The Mountain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    The Mountain's public confession might trigger (more) revenge for Ella Martell.
    He could had made him admit anything in that situation. It's an enchanced interogation technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arundel Armor Hunter View Post
    He could had made him admit anything in that situation. It's an enchanced interogation technique.
    maybe he should have tried to waterboard him?

    that usually works


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    If Dorne really wanted the Mountain to die, they would have already sent assassins to make sure that happens. I'm sure Dorne could have hired Faceless men or other assassins that even the Mountain couldn't withstand.

    Prince Doran is probably not thrilled that his brother died trying to avenger their sister, but if he hasn't taken action yet (it's been like 18 years since Elia died), he's either not going to, or he's just like Tywin, playing the VERY long game.

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