Game of Thrones

[XPac]

I personally don't see Game of Thrones as a "good vs. evil" show where the "good guy" has to win in the end but rather a battle of different views. I don't even see the Night King as being evil. Seems to me like it's the living who invaded his realm. As for Cersei, I'm sure she sees herself as the "hero" in this story not Jon or Dany and made a tactical decision that Daenerys/Jon would win based on the evidence she was given. Unthinking Wights susceptible to fire and dragonglass against Unsullied/Dothraki armed with dragonglass and three huge fire breathing dragons. Doesn't seem like her army is necessary. Except Jon forgot to mention that the Wights are led by White Walkers who are super strong, intelligent, and immune to fire. He also left out the Night King who has supernatural powers, able to raise dead animals as well as giants and bad enough to bring down a dragon. Perhaps Cersei would have taken the threat more seriously.

As for negotiating, she tried to negotiate. She said I'll give you A if you give me B. It was up to Jon to present a counter offer of we'll give you B if you give us C instead of making a speech.

As far as I can remember High Garden was the main source of food for the south(?) so it's time to stock up for the long winter like the north (unless you're Dany's armies who don't appear to need food).

Cersi stormed off in the meeting. Had she not done that, PERHAPS an option C could have been agreed upon. Instead she chose to leave the meeting, then come up with her own scheme to sell everyone out. Everyone else was willing to try and make an alliance work. But Cersi only wanted things HER way. When she couldn't have it, she opted to just sell everyone out. Which is all well and dandy except for the fact that the people she is screwing over are the people trying to save all mankind.

[Zodlike]

Cersi stormed off in the meeting. Had she not done that, PERHAPS an option C could have been agreed upon. Instead she chose to leave the meeting, then come up with her own scheme to sell everyone out. Everyone else was willing to try and make an alliance work. But Cersi only wanted things HER way. When she couldn't have it, she opted to just sell everyone out. Which is all well and dandy except for the fact that the people she is screwing over are the people trying to save all mankind.

Hence Cersei's popularity with women and feminists...

[JBatmanFan05]

No offense but i think you're REAAAALLLY reachin.

NK: evil or not:
During an interview with Deadline in 2016, the fantasy drama's showrunners, D.B. Weiss and David Benioff, revealed the reason why they've kept the Night King from getting too chatty. "We don't think of the Night King as a villain as much as Death. He is not someone who's like Joffrey or Ramsay. He's not really human anymore," they said. "Evil comes when you have a choice between that and good, and you choose the wrong way. The Night King doesn't have a choice; he was created in that way, and that's what he is. In some ways, he's just Death, coming for everyone in the story, and for all of us."
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainme...rones-43961128

[TheInvisibleMan]

ive always viewed the NK and the White Walkers that way

[Emperor-of-Dragons]

NK: evil or not:
During an interview with Deadline in 2016, the fantasy drama's showrunners, D.B. Weiss and David Benioff, revealed the reason why they've kept the Night King from getting too chatty. "We don't think of the Night King as a villain as much as Death. He is not someone who's like Joffrey or Ramsay. He's not really human anymore," they said. "Evil comes when you have a choice between that and good, and you choose the wrong way. The Night King doesn't have a choice; he was created in that way, and that's what he is. In some ways, he's just Death, coming for everyone in the story, and for all of us."
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainme...rones-43961128

I wasn't really talking about the NK specifically though. I've always thought of him as a kinda out of control weapon/program.

[Johnny Peril]

There's a theory with some fans that the wall was part of a treaty between both sides after the last war (which would explain how it got built so fast) but the living (Wildlings) violated the treaty.

[Johnny Peril]

I wasn't really talking about the NK specifically though. I've always thought of him as a kinda out of control weapon/program.

Yeah, he was created to win a war and then his creators side with the enemy, so it's scorched earth time.

Once more the White Walkers will rule Westeros and we shall have peace.

[The Big G]

Kit has some interesting thoughts on Jon Snow:

[hulahulk]

That's hilarious. I would love to see that on film

[The Big G]

Best plot twist would be that Jon always had the Targ Maddness its just that hes a high functioning pyscho

[Confuzzled]

Best plot twist would be that Jon always had the Targ Maddness its just that hes a high functioning pyscho

That would've been interesting if he hadn't been such a bore and special snowflake.

[The Big G]

That would've been interesting if he hadn't been such a bore and special snowflake.

Just wait....in Season 8 Jon's Dragon is gunna wake and **** will be cray cray lol

[Johnny Peril]

So. Who's the legal ruler of the Iron Throne? The deposed king's daughter? The dead prince's son? The usurper's illegitimate son? Or the woman who currently sits on it?

[Confuzzled]

So. Who's the legal ruler of the Iron Throne? The deposed king's daughter? The dead prince's son? The usurper's illegitimate son? Or the woman who currently sits on it?

In medieval times, "legal" was just the law made by the person in power at the time. So currently it's Cersei until she's deposed.

[AndrewCrossett]

Tommen died without any heir. In peaceful times they might have gone way back in the family tree to figure out who his closest living relative is (going on the fiction that he's an actual Baratheon, of course). Or there might have been some kind of competition or parliament convened to name a new king. So yeah... right now whoever can take the throne and keep it, is as much a legitimate ruler as anyone else. "Keeping it" will be made easier by having some plausible family claim to it, like Daenerys does (and Jon, unbeknownst to him).