Dick Grayson: Robin, Nightwing, Agent of Spyral - Appreciation

[Ascended]

I’d love to see that, Dick could have kept the globe trotting and be Nightwing, but nostalgiaists begged for bludhaven

I've been clearly vocal about wanting to see Dick doing more globe trotting, but I can see the desire to have a home city to come back to as well. And Bludhaven is a decent setting with solid potential. Dixon did good things with the setting, the current run seems to be (I trade wait, so I haven't actually read it yet).

I dont see why we can't have both. Dick can take down a drug ring in Bludhaven in one arc and then fly off to Shanghai for the next, then swing out to the Vega system after that (I ship Dick and Kori, sorry), go back to Bludhaven to catch his breath, then visit ancient Atlantis in the deep past. Why not? Dick, if written right, is more flexible than almost any other character around. You can throw him in virtually any situation and it fits perfectly.

[Pohzee]

All of this is painfully accurate, but I believe that I most strongly agree with whoever brought up the narration boxes. Unless they are done well (and they seldom are) I think they hinder more than help most stories. Your protagonist can't surprise you when you know their innermost thoughts. And they set up for some cheesy monologuing.

[nightbird]

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[Rac7d*]

I've been clearly vocal about wanting to see Dick doing more globe trotting, but I can see the desire to have a home city to come back to as well. And Bludhaven is a decent setting with solid potential. Dixon did good things with the setting, the current run seems to be (I trade wait, so I haven't actually read it yet).

I dont see why we can't have both. Dick can take down a drug ring in Bludhaven in one arc and then fly off to Shanghai for the next, then swing out to the Vega system after that (I ship Dick and Kori, sorry), go back to Bludhaven to catch his breath, then visit ancient Atlantis in the deep past. Why not? Dick, if written right, is more flexible than almost any other character around. You can throw him in virtually any situation and it fits perfectly.

Globe trotting is what he should be doing with the Titans, I dont see why they have to stay in NY

Bludhaven can be for more grounded mysteries

[Ascended]

Globe trotting is what he should be doing with the Titans, I dont see why they have to stay in NY

Bludhaven can be for more grounded mysteries

You're right, that's what the Titans *should* be doing, but from what I hear, they're doing anything but.

And Bludhaven can still be the place for Dick to have his gritty, grounded stories. But the character has more range than that. Why limit Nightwing to just one side of his character when he has more to offer? That's just bad business.

You don't say "Okay, Superman does crazy high concept adventure with the Justice League books, so in his own titles lets just limit him to dealing with Intergang, Metallo, and the other Metropolis based bad guys and stories." You don't do that with Flash or the Lantern or anything.

I am all for Bludhaven being Nightwing's permanent residence. I hated it when they Chemo-nuked the city back in Infinite Crisis (quite the spectacle, but a huge waste). I want that to be the place where Dick hangs his hat. I just want him doing stuff beyond those city limits too.

[nightbird]

Nightwing and Red Hood by Tyler Kirkham


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Arkham Knight Nighwting

[Onthetrapeze]

Honestly I'm still disappointed we never got King and Seeley to finish Grayson on their own, they obviously had more stories to tell. Anyway comic sales are down again and I think only 7 DC comics are selling above 30k but it happens all the time it's nothing new. I do wonder how DC plans to increase the sales because otherwise almost all books will fall under 20k sooner than or later. However Dick is still in a favourable postition I mean he can sell an ongoing series no matter what name is used but Nightwing is a well known superhero and an important part of the Batman Family so DC can't waste the name but like you have pointed out his most popular and well received stories are as Batman and Agent 37. Also the Vol 1. of Nightwing Rebirth sold very well, smth like 11k by now (based on reports from Diamond Comic Distributors). Seeley's run started very strong but I can't blame him for anything after that. It doesn't seem like Blüdhaven was his idea and I wonder what other stories we could have gotten from him if he wasn't forced to bring the city back. I mean he did more with the city than most wrters before him so I really hope the new team won't just erase everything he has build but I haven't read the new arc yet so I can't say anything about it.

Anyway it feels like everytime Dick moves on to smth bigger (Batman or Agent 37) he moves 5 steps back. Nightwing is still fun to read but it is rather frustrating sometimes. It is also annoying to see Dick acting like a child in Titans like seriously Dick has nothing to prove anymore, he is a capable and grown up hero. It's like the only story writers nowadays can tell about Batman and Dick involves Dick struggling to step out of Batman's shadow. I just wonder why Nighwting can't be written the same way as Grayson and Batman, he is still the same character. Anyway I look forward to see what the new team will bring to the table.

the new team just gave us two issues so I will wait till this arc ends. Hopefully it will turn out to be a great detective story... But I still want DC to acknowledge and show the influnence of Dickbat and Agent 37 on Dick's characterization. He really should be more sophisticated and light-hearted than he is.

[Ivy_b]

Ahh season 2 was just inferior. I know everyone is now demanding that more people be showcased but it's important to remember where the magic started. What won over viewers in the 1st place.
We started the journey with the 7. We are invested. It's unfair to lose them in the crowd.

Agreed. Between the original mains mostly getting demoted and S2 being only serialized, I think the show really suffered. You didn't have stand alones to focus on characters who aren't connected to the main plot, so the only ones who got any focus were those that had to do with The Reach.

[wvchemteach]

I've been clearly vocal about wanting to see Dick doing more globe trotting, but I can see the desire to have a home city to come back to as well. And Bludhaven is a decent setting with solid potential. Dixon did good things with the setting, the current run seems to be (I trade wait, so I haven't actually read it yet).

I dont see why we can't have both. Dick can take down a drug ring in Bludhaven in one arc and then fly off to Shanghai for the next, then swing out to the Vega system after that (I ship Dick and Kori, sorry), go back to Bludhaven to catch his breath, then visit ancient Atlantis in the deep past. Why not? Dick, if written right, is more flexible than almost any other character around. You can throw him in virtually any situation and it fits perfectly.

I agree with this. I think that Dick worked so well in Grayson because he was in different locales, but he also had a home base at St. Hadrians. I think that the new Bludhaven has the potential to become a colorful character all on its own with the new neon light/casino style trying to covering up the decrepit, dirty whaling town.

Given Dick's connections to Spyral and the Titans as well as just his travels since the New 52 reboot he has connections to several cities and countries so I would love for a potential storyline where a case in Bludhaven can be solved on the locale, but then leads him to have to chase down the source in either Metropolis, New York, Chicago, London, Paris, Hong Kong, etc.

[Rac7d*]

Why Isnt Nightwing allowed to have his stun batons every? Is it too much power for him

[Godlike13]

If they want to they could probably do the stun baton thing with his sticks. We have seen it before. I just think its something the current creative teams on him just don't really care about.

[oasis1313]

Is that a feedbag on the left? Lucky Charms cereal instead of dry oats?

[Rac7d*]

If they want to they could probably do the stun baton thing with his sticks. We have seen it before. I just think its something the current creative teams on him just don't really care about.

I dont think i have ever seen him use them that way 2013- to present unless it was on a cover or for Arkham promotion

[Godlike13]

He used them in Higgins run.

[Rac7d*]

He used them in Higgins run.

only in cover art