Dick Grayson: Robin, Nightwing, Agent of Spyral - Appreciation

[jbmasta]

Let’s say NightGirl (Dick and Barbara) and DickFire (Dick and Kory) are put to rest, who would you reckon editorial would want to set Dick up with?

[Vinsanity]

Let’s say NightGirl (Dick and Barbara) and DickFire (Dick and Kory) are put to rest, who would you reckon editorial would want to set Dick up with?

Random civilian for like a run and then she breaks up with him.

[jbmasta]

Random civilian for like a run and then she breaks up with him.

The problem comes with the seeming inability for Dick to assemble and maintain his own supporting cast for more than one creative team, based on what direction DC editorial decides for the title. Nightwing Rebirth only had two arcs linking back to the Grayson days (both penned by the Grayson co-writer), and the first one was the first Rebirth arc that also retired the Owls. The nostalgia trips haven't proven to be a hit, as Titans has been a huge mess and readers seem more interested in the non-Bludhaven issues. Seeley did an admirable job with Shawn (an effective approach with the time lapse issue), but that ship had to sink to facilitate the Dick/Barbara tease that never seems to evolve beyond that anymore.

That there's no stable creative team for the title in the near future is worrying.

[Aahz]

Tim dating Babs? Isn't he still jailbait for someone her age?

Thats hard to tell when it comes to the Arkhamverse.
Tim's origin story wasn't published in that continuity and his age was never clearly revealed afaik. But he is shown to be school teacher in one of the comics and it is also schown that Barbara was reading some post or tweet of him in her origin story, so he might be a lot older in that universe opposed to the comics (him beeing a teacher could actually imply that he might be older than Jason).

And I'm anyway not really sure if there really is a clear timeline for that universe.

[Ascended]

Let’s say NightGirl (Dick and Barbara) and DickFire (Dick and Kory) are put to rest, who would you reckon editorial would want to set Dick up with?

Sadly, I'm with Vinsanity here. Editorial doesn't really seem to have a clear direction or goal for Dick right now. They're just roaming from one brief creative run to the next, and as long as they keep doing that, we'll never see any real long-form development in Nightwing, including a love interest.

I think we'll be waiting for real consistency until a writer comes along who actively wants the book and wants to stay with it, who DC is able and willing to leave on the title for a few years.

[WonderNight]

I just read a little of steph's batgirl and man I miss spyral so much! just so weird and fun with with a huge sandbox.

[Aioros22]

yeah they decided to let tim date babs who would have been his babysitter considering is follows lore from the animated series

Arkham Verse Tim is simply a good deal older than his comic counterpart so he would never be jailbait to Barbara.

I never read them claming their verse followed on the animated lore in any especific meaning either, any source?

[Restingvoice]

https://www.cbr.com/weird-facts-nightwing-body/

My compliment to the writer for not going for the obvious

[byrd156]

Nightwing #44 variant cover by Romita Jr.

Damn Dick looks very intimidating.

[Ascended]

Damn Dick looks very intimidating.

I love the variety you can get out of Nightwing. He can be the brooding, dark vigilante who makes criminals pee their pants, or he can be the perfectly nice boy next door, and none of it feels out of character for him. I think it works really nicely with his background as a performer; he becomes whatever his audience needs him to be. It's an interesting trait that opens a lot of doors for stories, and it makes Dick a very flexible character. I mean, he can do "bright and optimistic" in a way Batman never could (not since the days of Adam West anyway) but he can also go pretty dark and brutal in a way you'd never let Superman. It's a pretty wide range to work with.

Maybe thats part of the problem? Maybe writers are too accustomed to having a narrow set of personality traits and character quirks, and Dick's not pigeon-holed into one specific archetype like so many other comic characters are. Perhaps writers struggle to figure out where on the spectrum Nightwing falls, without realizing that the entire spectrum is his playground?

[Pohzee]

Here's an interview with Percy from C2E2
https://graphicpolicy.com/2018/04/15...enjamin-percy/

Here's the most interesting part of the interview in my opinion:

GP: Kind of like a Bond cold open. Speaking of James Bond, which you wrote a little bit for Dynamite, are you bringing any kind of spy elements to Nightwing?

BP: We’re starting off in Bludhaven, but the story is not staying there. Arc after arc, it’s getting bigger and bigger.

Percy seems to plan to stick around for longer than this arc, and he also plans to build out from Blüdhaven.

Another thing that encourages me is that he specifically mentions Grayson when probed about influences. They ask about Seeley and Humphries's runs, and he mentions King.

[Godlike13]

It'll be interesting to see how this tech-laced gentrification meshes with the gambling side of Bludhaven. I really don't want to see the return of the drab and gritty Bludhaven.

[Pohzee]

It'll be interesting to see how this tech-laced gentrification meshes with the gambling side of Bludhaven. I really don't want to see the return of the drab and gritty Bludhaven.

Well, here what he had to say about Blüdhaven:

Right now, Bill Gates is funneling 80 million dollars into a plot of land in Arizona to create a smart city. Right now, off the shore of China, they’re building islands. They’re expanding their country and building these “smart islands”.

I’m taking this real world situation and putting it in Bludhaven, a city that has always been in need of rehab. So, a tech mogul has moved there and is trying to rehabilitate the place. Something else might be going on beneath the surface of his intentions. Not only are buildings being demolished and neighborhoods rebuilt within a 5G network

So it doesn't really sound like it. It sounds more like he's running with the "drab and gritty Blüdhaven" that is constantly seeking a face lift. But this a Tech botox rather than Casino makeover.

Glad to read that he's not trying to capture his Green Arrow run. He really did not have a good grasp on political commentary. Here's to hoping he's better at tech ones
(who am I kidding?)

[WonderNight]

Man I really don't know about this techhaven, it doesn't fit nightwing character. I'm fine with it be a story arc but the Atlantic city bludhaven fit's and plays to dick's character better, it's a fun, social, sexy and energetic setting. It's perfect for a young pretty boy.

[DGraysonWorldsGreatestSpy]

Honestly how could anything be considered right for Nightwing? That Casino Haven through this run has been equal to Nightwing leading the Justice League where it looks nicely but there is no real story potential. Nothing innovative has been done with the Casino but continue job hopping and interchangeable cast.