Tim Drake: Robin, Red Robin Appreciation 2018

[KrustyKid]

future tim apparently has a new code name on TT, I wish present Tim took a hint or two.

Yah. There really isn't much weight to the Red Robin name like Pre-52. I think it's time for a change.

[Korath]

Yah. There really isn't much weight to the Red Robin name like Pre-52. I think it's time for a change.

Even before New 52, the Red Robin name was pretty stupid. It was almost as if D.C. had wanted to keep him in the back to return to the Robin's role if Damian ended extremely unpopular, but because of it, Tim has hardly changed a character since then. At best, he became a poor copy of Batman in his Red Robin solo.

[KrustyKid]

Even before New 52, the Red Robin name was pretty stupid. It was almost as if D.C. had wanted to keep him in the back to return to the Robin's role if Damian ended extremely unpopular, but because of it, Tim has hardly changed a character since then. At best, he became a poor copy of Batman in his Red Robin solo.

That is untrue. Tim, Pre-New 52 made plenty of character progression from the start of the Red Robin series towards what we got at the end of it. He started off a bit lost and unsure of his position. And by the end he seemed to have a pretty good grasp for what he wanted to do and how to accomplish it going forward. Sure, he shared some similarities to Batman(what Robin boy doesn't?), but it was clear from the final issue of the Red Robin series that there was a difference between the two(Tim/Bruce), from a moral standpoint in particular. Though, even with Pre-52 I still think Tim could have gone with a different name, something not attached to 'Robin', since he was trying to distance himself from the Bat Fam at that period in time(When he first took on the Red Robin name).

With current Tim, what is even the reason for the 'Red Robin' name? But with that said, if he is to change it there should be a good reason for him to do so. Not just for the sake of change. Any good role or name change should hold some kind of weight to it.

[Midnighter]

Even before New 52, the Red Robin name was pretty stupid. It was almost as if D.C. had wanted to keep him in the back to return to the Robin's role if Damian ended extremely unpopular, but because of it, Tim has hardly changed a character since then. At best, he became a poor copy of Batman in his Red Robin solo.

Actually GM had plans for Damian to be killed off, if I am remembering correctly. He was intended as a character with a shelf life. But he proved popular so he was kept on and allowed to develop long term as a permanent character.

That is untrue. Tim, Pre-New 52 made plenty of character progression from the start of the Red Robin series towards what we got at the end of it. He started off a bit lost and unsure of his position. And by the end he seemed to have a pretty good grasp for what he wanted to do and how to accomplish it going forward. Sure, he shared some similarities to Batman(what Robin boy doesn't?), but it was clear from the final issue of the Red Robin series that there was a difference between the two(Tim/Bruce), from a moral standpoint in particular. Though, even with Pre-52 I still think Tim could have gone with a different name, something not attached to 'Robin', since he was trying to distance himself from the Bat Fam at that period in time(When he first took on the Red Robin name).

^This.

[Assam]

Actually GM had plans for Damian to be killed off, if I am remembering correctly. He was intended as a character with a shelf life. But he proved popular so he was kept on and allowed to develop long term as a permanent character..

Mostly right, but shaky on the details. Damian wasn't just meant to have a "shelf life", he was meant to die at the end of his introductory storyline. Morrison decided though that it'd make his death more tragic if he made him Robin and gave him years to develop and grow a fanbase. By the time he did kill him, he probably knew he'd grown popular enough that DC would almost immediately bring him back, but in his mind, that was supposed to be it for Damian.

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[Rac7d*]

why cant he go back to wearing red

[godisawesome]

Anyone else notice the mis-colored cameo of the old Red Robin suit in this week's Batman?

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Christmas with the Joker. What could possibly go wrong?

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