So, is Carol Danvers now officially Marvel's "Wonder Woman"?

[Gordonstar]

Female Thor is the Marvels Wonder Woman.

[Mr MajestiK]

Sorry but WW is not up ther ewith Superman, Batman and Spiderman, She's up but nowhere on the same level with the three.

You are incorrect.

Wonder Woman has an iconic status on par with Superman and Batman from a globally recognized perspective.

Marvel have no female characters that have equally iconic recognition or similarly themed status.

[Mark]

There is no real comparison.

It should be noted is that Carol is in capable hands in terms of writers, people who actually care about the character. Wonder woman on the other hand is being dragged through the mud by horrible writing that is infantilizing her.

Also as it was noted, DC characters kind of have the stature of gods. There is this underlying quasi fascism there, and Wonder Woman is no exception. Carol on the other hand, despite being slated as "the mighteist avenger) is still a woman who just happens to have superpowers. Her humanity is always there, the people in her neighborhood, and her relationships. It makes Carol much more relatable as supposed to Athenian politicing (blah!). Carol in many ways shares more with other MARVEL characters like Steve Rogers or Peter Parker as a result. Frankly this is the distinguishing element between Marvel and DC, and why the women in Marvel Comics remain far better portrayals of women, even with the super powers.

While Wonder Woman is iconic, I rather have Carol (or Kamala, Quake, etc) any day of the week. The humanism of Marvel is what makes Marvel worthwhile. When Marvel moves away from this humanism of it's characters whether they are heroes or villians (even if they are mutants or inhuman) that it sometimes suffers.

So Carol is not Marvel's Wonder Woman, and Marvel is better for it.

I don't think she's that relatable, she's gone into space in her own title more often than not. At the moment Diana has gone through a change that's turn off many but interested many more. But in the beginning Diana had an author who had a set vision and control of the character for five years without much interference. It may not have been the most normal vision but it was set and whats more the universe wasn't constantly shifting and rebooting under the feet and her storylines weren't being hijacked for big events. Also Diana's costume was stable as was her name. Carol just can't compete with that. I think the other poster is right, Marvel tried to push Carol and now they're trying to push female Thor and when that doesn't work they'll try someone else.

[Project Initiative Cascada]

You are incorrect.

Wonder Woman has an iconic status on par with Superman and Batman from a globally recognized perspective.

Marvel have no female characters that have equally iconic recognition or similarly themed status.

What about Storm and Jean Grey?

[Gordonstar]

What about Storm and Jean Grey?

They don't sell monthly books or are big outside of Comics merch wise.

[Rogue Star]

For the longest time, Marvel didn't have a flagship female character the way DC comics did with Wonder Woman.Through the nineties it seemed Storm was the closet thing marvel had. With Carol getting a movie all her own, do you consider her to be 616's leading lady??

P.S. Could someone put question marks in thread title?

Marvel needs Captain Marvel to succeed but they don't need her to be their "Wonder Woman." Not every superheroine needs to be compared to Wonder Woman, the same way that not every male character should be compared to Superman. Characters should be allowed to be themselves.

[Mr MajestiK]

What about Storm and Jean Grey?

They don't sell monthly books or are big outside of Comics merch wise.

Gordonstar for the win.

[Myetche]

What about Storm and Jean Grey?

They're stuck in the X-Men where everything is all about the team dynamic. It's nearly impossible to be iconic on your own merits when you're sharing the spotlight with 50 others.

Marvel is actually very hard-pressed to have any major female heroes that aren't X-Men or otherwise stuck on a team. Carol is pretty much all they've got.

[Mr MajestiK]

The idea has never caught on. WB/DC's PR has been trying to make her into a big thing and aligning her with Batman and Superman calling them the big three/Trinity but considering the story arcs and team-up these three have had over the years/decades in the comics you know it's utter hogwash. There's just the idea of WW that has been pushed around over the years but there is no story arcs to support her wonderfulness.

None of which changes the fact that Wonder Woman is an iconic figure with global recognition.

The same cannot be said for Carol Danvers.

[Agent Z]

There is no real comparison.

It should be noted is that Carol is in capable hands in terms of writers, people who actually care about the character. Wonder woman on the other hand is being dragged through the mud by horrible writing that is infantilizing her.

Also as it was noted, DC characters kind of have the stature of gods. There is this underlying quasi fascism there, and Wonder Woman is no exception. Carol on the other hand, despite being slated as "the mighteist avenger) is still a woman who just happens to have superpowers. Her humanity is always there, the people in her neighborhood, and her relationships. It makes Carol much more relatable as supposed to Athenian politicing (blah!). Carol in many ways shares more with other MARVEL characters like Steve Rogers or Peter Parker as a result. Frankly this is the distinguishing element between Marvel and DC, and why the women in Marvel Comics remain far better portrayals of women, even with the super powers.

While Wonder Woman is iconic, I rather have Carol (or Kamala, Quake, etc) any day of the week. The humanism of Marvel is what makes Marvel worthwhile. When Marvel moves away from this humanism of it's characters whether they are heroes or villians (even if they are mutants or inhuman) that it sometimes suffers.

So Carol is not Marvel's Wonder Woman, and Marvel is better for it.

This has not been the case for decades and I'r really getting tired of people saying this. Marvel characters are no more or less relatable than DC characters. As for better female characters, call me when DC has something like Avengers 200 or House of M, the two worst uses of female characters in the history of super hero comics

[Agent Z]

There is no real comparison.

It should be noted is that Carol is in capable hands in terms of writers, people who actually care about the character. Wonder woman on the other hand is being dragged through the mud by horrible writing that is infantilizing her.

Also as it was noted, DC characters kind of have the stature of gods. There is this underlying quasi fascism there, and Wonder Woman is no exception. Carol on the other hand, despite being slated as "the mighteist avenger) is still a woman who just happens to have superpowers. Her humanity is always there, the people in her neighborhood, and her relationships. It makes Carol much more relatable as supposed to Athenian politicing (blah!). Carol in many ways shares more with other MARVEL characters like Steve Rogers or Peter Parker as a result. Frankly this is the distinguishing element between Marvel and DC, and why the women in Marvel Comics remain far better portrayals of women, even with the super powers.

While Wonder Woman is iconic, I rather have Carol (or Kamala, Quake, etc) any day of the week. The humanism of Marvel is what makes Marvel worthwhile. When Marvel moves away from this humanism of it's characters whether they are heroes or villians (even if they are mutants or inhuman) that it sometimes suffers.

So Carol is not Marvel's Wonder Woman, and Marvel is better for it.

This has not been the case for decades and I'm really getting tired of people saying this. Marvel characters are no more or less relatable than DC characters. As for better female characters, call me when DC has something like Avengers 200 or House of M, the two worst uses of female characters in the history of super hero comics

[Agent Z]

The idea has never caught on. WB/DC's PR has been trying to make her into a big thing and aligning her with Batman and Superman calling them the big three/Trinity but considering the story arcs and team-up these three have had over the years/decades in the comics you know it's utter hogwash. There's just the idea of WW that has been pushed around over the years but there is no story arcs to support her wonderfulness.

George Perez run from the 80s

Greg Rucka's run and The Hiketeaia

Gail Simone's The Circle

Golden Perfect

League of One

Next time do you research.

[Rogue Star]

Marvel has some of the best female characters in comics - characters to be extremely proud of. Somehow this thread feels more like an occasion to say "as great as they are, they aren't as great as Wonder Woman" and essentially take a dump on them.

[Myetche]

Marvel has some of the best female characters in comics - characters to be extremely proud of.

And almost all of them are stuck on teams. Marvel wants a heroine they can push as a solo-act.

[Mark]

Marvel never has had a Birds of Prey level book.