DC Sales & Estimates

[TomSlick]

When has Barry ever been milquetoast? As for Wally, he was Barry, Jr. during the Silver and Bronze Ages.

Yeah but then for the next three decades he became his own unique character and much better one than Barry. Until DC when ahead and effed that all up with Nu 52.

[Dolores - The Worst Poster Ever]

Justice League moved up to the #1 spot on the US comixology charts, knocking down the Darth Vader annual. Pretty impressive considering The Force Awakens just came out and people can't get enough of Star Wars.

[Lee Stone]

Justice League moved up to the #1 spot on the US comixology charts, knocking down the Darth Vader annual. Pretty impressive considering The Force Awakens just came out and people can't get enough of Star Wars.

Interesting, too, that Justice League is displaying a more "animated" art style as opposed to the usual house style. The cover, alone, looks more 'Darwyn Cooke' and less 'Jim Lee'.

[Frontier]

Interesting, too, that Justice League is displaying a more "animated" art style as opposed to the usual house style. The cover, alone, looks more 'Darwyn Cooke' and less 'Jim Lee'.

I think both Fabok and Manapul have been doing amazing work for Darkseid War, and I'm apparently one of the few who doesn't see one "style" as more appropriate then the other.

It's all just great art either way .

[DeathFalcon182]

Bleeding Cool report says DC wants to publish their titles bi weekly.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/12/...-go-bi-weekly/

[HsssH]

First thing that poped to my head was Spider-Man thing that was mentioned in the article. It somewhat worked because other two titles were cancelled and those were a bit redundant in the first place. What DC could cancel for Batman? They done great work with giving distinct voices to most of Batman titles and I doubt that DC would "cancel" Detective.

[GlennSimpson]

First thing that poped to my head was Spider-Man thing that was mentioned in the article. It somewhat worked because other two titles were cancelled and those were a bit redundant in the first place. What DC could cancel for Batman? They done great work with giving distinct voices to most of Batman titles and I doubt that DC would "cancel" Detective.

I guess they would "cancel" whatever the next weekly Batman series would have been.

[Lee Stone]

Another bit of useless triva for those interested...
Since the #4 issues are generally the first issues orderable after readers read #1 off the shelf, I went ahead and made comparable charts of DC's top 20 New52 titles and their top 20 DCYou titles, using sales from their fourth issues.
Sales are rounded to nearest thousand.

New52
1. Justice League 142k
2. Batman 134k
3. Action Comics 113k
4. Green Lantern 104k
5. Detective Comics 89k
6. Flash 77k
7. Batman: The Dark Knight 71k
8. Superman 69k
9. Batman and Robin 68k
10. Aquaman 58k

11. Wonder Woman 58k
12. Teen Titans 55k
13. Batgirl 54k
14. Green Lantern: New Guardians 53k
15. Batwoman 53k
16. Nightwing 52k
17. Green Lantern Corps 51k
18. Red Lanterns 45k
19. Swamp Thing 45k
20. Catwoman 41k

DCYou
1. Batman 114k
2. Justice League 77k
3. Harley Quinn 57k
4. Detective Comics 57k
5. Justice League of America 57k
6. Superman 44k
7. Batman/Superman 40k
8. Green Lantern 39k
9. Robin, Son of Batman 38k
10. Action Comics 38k

11. Wonder Woman 36k
12. Flash 36k
13. Harley Quinn/Power Girl 36k
14. New Suicide Squad 35k
15. Superman/Wonder Woman 34k
16. Grayson 32k
17. Deathstroke 31k
18. Batman Beyond 31k
19. Batgirl 31k
20. Starfire 30k

Edit: Overlooked JLA... Cyborg is now out of the top 20.

[Bruce Wayne]

Is that a mistake? Because it says #10 for DCYou sold 36K? That is pretty bad.

[Lee Stone]

Is that a mistake? Because it says #10 for DCYou sold 36K? That is pretty bad.

Nope... you're reading it right...
The first issues orderable after the full Post-Convergence June relaunch were the September issues, which were ordered in July. Wonder Woman's September issue, #44, sold 36,151.

EDIT: I overlooked JLA because it was delayed. It ranked #5 and pushed everything else down so now the #10 book was Action Comics with 38k.

Also...

Eight of DC's top 20 New52 titles have been cancelled (or replaced in the cases of Batman and Robin/Robin, Son of Batman and Nightwing/Grayson).
Batman and Justice League swapped spots as DC's #1 book.
Harley Quinn and Justice League of America joined the top 5, with Green Lantern and Action Comics dropping down.
Superman and Action Comics swapped popularity.
Wonder Woman's holding strong smack dab in the middle.
The three Convergence tie-ins (Superman: Lois & Clark, Titans Hunt and Telos) most likely won't even rank. Although sales for their #4 issues aren't out, yet, their #2 issues all sold under 23k. With natural attrition, and unless something happens, they look like they'll all be under 20k or right at it on their 4th issues.
Grayson and Robin are holding steady in the exact same spots they were in their previous incarnations.

[Badou]

But you also need to remember that back at the start of the New 52 DC wasn't going the monthly themed variants like they are now for the DCYou titles you listed there. So the actual numbers are probably a few thousand lower than what we see listed.

[Lee Stone]

But you also need to remember that back at the start of the New 52 DC wasn't going the monthly themed variants like they are now for the DCYou titles you listed there. So the actual numbers are probably a few thousand lower than what we see listed.

True, I think ComicsBeat mentioned that they estimate about 5k average sales per comic is from variants now.

Edit: Oops... I just noticed that I overlooked JLA, since it was delayed on its 4th issue... updating now.

[Colossus1980]

Another bit of useless triva for those interested...
Since the #4 issues are generally the first issues orderable after readers read #1 off the shelf, I went ahead and made comparable charts of DC's top 20 New52 titles and their top 20 DCYou titles, using sales from their fourth issues.
Sales are rounded to nearest thousand.

Thanks for making that list. There are always some posters who say that DC sales are healthy while others say that the reboot is not successful at all. I'm leaning towards the latter.

[Lee Stone]

Thanks for making that list. There are always some posters who say that DC sales are healthy while others say that the reboot is not successful at all. I'm leaning towards the latter.

No problem.
I find that if you remove the first three months, which are usually ordered sight unseen, you get a better gauge on how titles are doing.
Usually by the fourth month, readers and retailers would have had a chance to check out the first issue before making further orders.

Here's a snapshot of November's top 20 DC titles with all "sight unseen" comics removed:
Sales are rounded to nearest thousand.
Note: Justice League was delayed and its last issue sold 77k, which would have put it at #2 easily. Cyborg was also delayed and its last issue sold 28k, which means its November issue may or not have landed in the Top 20 depending on how much it dropped.

November Top 20
1. Batman 107k
2. Harley Quinn 58k
3. Justice League of America 53k
4. Detective Comics 47k
5. Superman 42k
6. Green Lantern 39k
7. Batman/Superman 38k
8. Flash 36k
9. Robin, Son of Batman 36k
10. Action Comics 36k

11. Harley Quinn/Power Girl 34k
12. Wonder Woman 34k
13. New Suicide Squad 33k
14. Deathstroke 32k
15. Grayson 32k
16. Superman/Wonder Woman 31k
17. Starfire 28k
18. Batman Beyond 28k
19. DC Comics Bombshells 27k
20. Teen Titans 27k

For comparison... here's Marvel's Top 10 using the same technique.
Note that between the relaunch and double-shippings, a lot of titles were ordered "sight unseen".

For books that double-shipped, I used the lowest ordered issue to represent it's rank.

1. Secret Wars 177k
2. Uncanny X-Men 127k
3. Star Wars 123k
4. Darth Vader 90k
5. Thors 48k
6. Kanan 43k
7. Infinity Gauntlet 40k
8. Groot 24k
9. Squadron Sinister 21k
10. Silver Surfer 21k

Also, here are the non-Big2 titles that ranked higher than DC's #20 title in November:

1. Walking Dead (Image) 66k
2. Saga (Image) 54k
3. We Stand on Guard (Image) 37k
4. Fight Club 2 (Dark Horse) 34k

[The Darknight Detective]

But you also need to remember that back at the start of the New 52 DC wasn't going the monthly themed variants like they are now for the DCYou titles you listed there. So the actual numbers are probably a few thousand lower than what we see listed.

Also, digital sales have increased at last 4 times since then. Still, I do appreciate the numbers Lee has posted here.