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    Quote Originally Posted by vark View Post
    Not a collected edition per se, but a somptuous portfolio of Joe Colquhoun's art on Pat Mills Charley's War that I have bought yesterday.
    http://myabsolutecollection.blogspot...rleys-war.html
    Hey Vark, can you tell me something about the French Spirou and Gaston limited "Artist Edition" type books (l'integrale)? Are they worth their money? On Amazon.fr they seem to get quite some negative reviews. Is that because of the cost or are there other problems?
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJulius View Post
    Hey Vark, can you tell me something about the French Spirou and Gaston limited "Artist Edition" type books (l'integrale)? Are they worth their money? On Amazon.fr they seem to get quite some negative reviews. Is that because of the cost or are there other problems?
    Thanks!
    I will look into it, do you have some link from amazon.fr reviews in particular?
    I'm quite happy with my collection myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vark View Post
    I will look into it, do you have some link from amazon.fr reviews in particular?
    I'm quite happy with my collection myself.
    The following ones have a lot of negative or average reviews:

    http://www.amazon.fr/Spirou-Tome-Zor...4G1KS7ES6J2ZQN

    http://www.amazon.fr/Version-Origina...4G1KS7ES6J2ZQN

    http://www.amazon.fr/Spirou-Tome-pri...4G1KS7ES6J2ZQN

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJulius View Post
    I know what you mean about double-dipping, but luckily that book is my first exposure to Corto Maltese.

    I'd like to know what the IDW editions will look like, especially the limited oversized ones. I would've waited for those onstead, but I guess they won't be available for less than 40€ over here.

    Btw, are the original versions of Corto b&w or in colour?
    I think almost all the stories were originally drawn for B&W and were only coloured much later but I'm not 100% sure. "Ballad of the Salt Sea" definitely was B&W in it's original publication though.

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    So the main negative points of view seem to be:
    - these artist's editions are too expensive
    - editorial material is badly presented
    - they contain plain B&W scans when the original art prove to be untraceable

    Comparing to other books of this type (like Tirage de Tête) in France , i.e. very over-sized book, low numbered print run (between 2000 and 3000 copies), printing on thick quality mat paper with sewn quality binding they costs quite the same price, and they usually feature much more pages. There use to be one book per year for each collection (Gaston and Spirou), but now it's very more sporadic.

    Editorial material is partly made of commented pictures of additional material in Spirou magazine that has not been "cleaned" like the main material. I understand that it can bother some people, for my part I greatly enjoy this part full of anecdotes. For the latest volumes fac similés, i.e. color hi res scans of original material like covers, bits of drawing etc.., have been added to the extra section.

    I cannot quite understand the last negative point of view. I have started this collection rather early with the third Gaston, and this collection was sold as original size plain B&W scans of cleaned pages. It has become an ongoing Artist's Edition collection (in the IDW sense, meaning colored scans of original art with traces of pencils) from Gaston #10 (but Gaston #8 was the first AE) and Spirou #2 (QRN) hence the Fac Similés designation. So yes, from time to time we still have a B&W scan, but it's not a secret and what we have now can be seen as an improvement.

    For my part, the reason why I have started this collection is the ubber size of reproduction, and it's worth every penny I have invested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vark View Post
    So the main negative points of view seem to be:
    - these artist's editions are too expensive
    - editorial material is badly presented
    - they contain plain B&W scans when the original art prove to be untraceable

    Comparing to other books of this type (like Tirage de Tête) in France , i.e. very over-sized book, low numbered print run (between 2000 and 3000 copies), printing on thick quality mat paper with sewn quality binding they costs quite the same price, and they usually feature much more pages. There use to be one book per year for each collection (Gaston and Spirou), but now it's very more sporadic.

    Editorial material is partly made of commented pictures of additional material in Spirou magazine that has not been "cleaned" like the main material. I understand that it can bother some people, for my part I greatly enjoy this part full of anecdotes. For the latest volumes fac similés, i.e. color hi res scans of original material like covers, bits of drawing etc.., have been added to the extra section.

    I cannot quite understand the last negative point of view. I have started this collection rather early with the third Gaston, and this collection was sold as original size plain B&W scans of cleaned pages. It has become an ongoing Artist's Edition collection (in the IDW sense, meaning colored scans of original art with traces of pencils) from Gaston #10 (but Gaston #8 was the first AE) and Spirou #2 (QRN) hence the Fac Similés designation. So yes, from time to time we still have a B&W scan, but it's not a secret and what we have now can be seen as an improvement.

    For my part, the reason why I have started this collection is the ubber size of reproduction, and it's worth every penny I have invested.
    Wow, thanks for the extensive answer!

    So if I understand you correctly, if I want an AE type of book, I should look for anything from Gaston #10 and Spirou #2 onwards.

    Btw, even IDW's AEs sometimes have just cleaned b&w scans, for example the Byrne FF one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaltomuoto View Post
    Cheap Comics have it in stock as well. Not sure what the shipping costs will be (they're based in the Netherlands) but it never hurts to ask and their packaging is excellent.
    i tried them once, but they didn't ship to my country, well, at least, the message on the checkout said that no shipping was available for my country. you're right of course, maybe i should contact them... thanks for the tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJulius View Post
    Wow, thanks for the extensive answer!

    So if I understand you correctly, if I want an AE type of book, I should look for anything from Gaston #10 and Spirou #2 onwards.
    Yes, and you can add to the list Gaston #8 (very hard to find but from everyone opinion the best one in term of material and page count) and Idées Noires 2009 version.
    There is another one dedicated to the Marsupilami scheduled for the 21th November (it's on Dupuis' site, they have bought Marsu prod last year) but I don't now yet if it will be "fac similés".
    http://www.dupuis.com/version-origin...franquin/57200

    There is another collection publishing Spirou's short stories in AE style (around 25€/ book but not over-sized), here is the latest one http://www.dupuis.com/la-quick-super...ck-super/58420

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    For the Polish readers amongst us there's a great article here talking about how Thorgal came to be with some really interesting stuff on how Grzegorz Rosiński and Jean Van Hamme met up and their beginnings in the "comicbook world". Man, Rosiński truly does draw beautifully.

    Some pics from the article for perusal:




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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJulius View Post
    Btw, even IDW's AEs sometimes have just cleaned b&w scans, for example the Byrne FF one.
    Yes, it is also the case for the Hellboy AE, but it's really not bothering me, and I would have bought in a heart beat a complete artifact edition of watchmen with only B&W scans (for me size really matters!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffi Ol D'Arcy View Post
    For the Polish readers amongst us there's a great article here talking about how Thorgal came to be with some really interesting stuff on how Grzegorz Rosiński and Jean Van Hamme met up and their beginnings in the "comicbook world". Man, Rosiński truly does draw beautifully.

    Some pics from the article for perusal:
    Thanks for that. There is also lots of inside information about Rosinski in first HC for Yans. Which you should purchase immediately!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vark View Post
    Yes, and you can add to the list Gaston #8 (very hard to find but from everyone opinion the best one in term of material and page count) and Idées Noires 2009 version.
    There is another one dedicated to the Marsupilami scheduled for the 21th November (it's on Dupuis' site, they have bought Marsu prod last year) but I don't now yet if it will be "fac similés".
    http://www.dupuis.com/version-origin...franquin/57200

    There is another collection publishing Spirou's short stories in AE style (around 25€/ book but not over-sized), here is the latest one http://www.dupuis.com/la-quick-super...ck-super/58420
    The edition of Idees Noires would be awesome. Prices on ebay however are not. Guess I'll wait for a deal.

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    A few bad pics of Terry Moore's Echo Complete Edition HC







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    Art is great, what's this book about? Some superhero flick with deeper story?

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