Regular deluxe Incal at $380? wtf that's just insane
Regular deluxe Incal at $380? wtf that's just insane
So all i need is the Before the Incal and the Incal Hardcover? Those 2 and then it's all done?
"You don't ever quit. Not even to your last drop of blood. You got folks relyin' on you then you just can't afford to." Sean Noonan-Hitman #47
Final Incal? Never mentioned that? That's not available cheap right now. This is your cheapest option I think
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/159465...&robot_redir=1
"You don't ever quit. Not even to your last drop of blood. You got folks relyin' on you then you just can't afford to." Sean Noonan-Hitman #47
Ah allright, well i'm assuming we'll get a normal HC of Final Incal too in sometime. Thanks alot for answering my noob questions.
The normal Final Incal HC will probably be out next summer; the standard editions seem to lag a year behind the oversized/numbered editions.
Why is it so hard for Humanoids to keep anything in print? Some of the Incal books were only printed a few years ago but they already go for hundreds on the secondary market. I know they publish some obscure books that aren't in constant demand but Surely most comic fans are aware of jodorowsky and moebius?
Last edited by canadianaidan64; 07-12-2014 at 06:05 PM.
I'm really torn on Glory, to be honest:
Pros:
+ Art is pretty damn great, and I actually like the character designs a lot (except for Riley, who looks WAY younger than she is).
+ Henry was a cool character.
+ The battles felt pretty epic.
+ Glory herself being a weapon of mass destruction who easily loses control is a really interesting concept...
Cons:
- ...But it also makes Glory kind of a complete bitch to everyone. I know they intended to make her somewhat cold and distant, but I had absolutely no sympathy for her throughout the course of the story; and I was actually rooting for someone to finally kill her.
- Glory's sister has to be the absolute worst character I've read in YEARS. Non-stop, meaningless cursing doesn't make a character interesting or "badass"; it just makes the comic read like it was written by a 12 year-old kid.
- The pacing was incredibly off. I know it was cancelled before its time and they had to wrap things up quickly, but the plot progression is all over the place and nothing that happens in the last few issues feels "earned" or satisfying.
- The dialogue never really "clicked" throughout the whole story. It mostly felt like endless exposition with very few character moments, and even those didn't do much for me.
...
I just don't know. I really love some things about it, and really hate others.
It's deliberate, but I don't think it's necessary any more. Humanoids US was a fairly high-risk venture, as they had struggled to find an English-language audience in the past (as recently as their 2004-2005 partnership with DC), so obviously they want to minimise their exposure in terms of inventory.
As such, I think the strategy has been to start with limited editions (numbered print runs c.750/999/1500 copies), with low print run standard editions following about a year later. This makes sure the books sell out fast (with some people buying multiple copies to flip), and ensures they aren't stuck with excess inventory. Rather than reinvesting this money in additional printings, I think they use it to produce new titles (or at least new English translations), thereby continuing the cycle. The strong secondary market on OOP titles also promotes demand for new books, as it makes them look like good investments (i.e. why not buy two new copies, when you can probably flip one for twice the cover price next year?). Please note: this is all speculation, but it makes sense to me!
I'm torn on whether I like this strategy or not. I like having limited edition books, but it can be frustrating and alienating when you're late to the party. I've only recently gotten into Humanoids in a big way (I've had The Incal for a few years, but never branched out further than that), so I'm playing catch-up myself. Really, I think they've gotten to the point where they can afford to keep some of their bigger titles in print, even if it was just in paperback.
Actually, I forgot one pretty big plus: The ending.
It was ballsy, different, it changed my perspective on Glory herself and it showed me a main character I could ACTUALLY sympathize with. I absolutely love that final issue, regardless of my thoughts on the rest of the series.
And also a pretty big con:
...Except for the fact that Glory herself was a completely different character, personality-wise. I liked THAT Glory a lot, but the depiction of her in that last issue is so unlike what she was in previous issues that it doesn't feel like a character growing and becoming better as much as it's a complete retcon of Glory herself. It doesn't feel EARNED as much as it reads like the writer saying "look, I know how completely unlikable Glory is so here's something to make you feel bad for her, even though it pretty much comes out of absolutely nowhere! Isn't it cool how I inserted what is arguably the most important character of the story in the very last issue without ANY build-up?!".
And that's my problem with Glory: for every plus I think of there's a bigger con that somewhat invalidates said plus. I might re-read the whole thing with that final issue in mind to see if it gives me some added perspective, but I just don't think the writing itself is very good at all.
Last edited by Curt Baboon; 07-12-2014 at 06:20 PM.
Thanks for the Very enlightening response, Tarkus. I hope one day they'll reprint the incal and the metabarons in an oversized format for people like me who were late to discover European comics and can't afford the crazy ebay prices (sometimes as much as a dollar per page.)
I wish dark horse would buy the rights to publish jodorowsky and moebius' stuff. We'd get library edition quality collections for $35 each and they'd remain in print forever....
Last edited by canadianaidan64; 07-12-2014 at 06:33 PM.