General omnibus & hardcover discussion vol. II

[borntohula]

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Just got these from IST. Cant wait to dig into 100 bullets.

It really is the best way of experiencing the story, in the deluxe books' 20ish issue long arcs.

Btw. Sorry if off topic but: Anyone up for a tread about the book someday? Would love to share theories about the book.

[Billy Batson]

It really is the best way of experiencing the story, in the deluxe books' 20ish issue long arcs.

Btw. Sorry if off topic but: Anyone up for a tread about the book someday? Would love to share theories about the book.

I'd be up to that.

[Billy Batson]

Damn. Alan Moore on Crossed. Should I start reading that book now after all? Never wanted to even though it was Ennis. I have yet to read an Avatar book that I really like (thought Wormwood was one of the weakest Ennis books so far and also didn't think the two Ellis' ones I read were any good). So. Should I get the first TPB?

Have you read Moore's Fashion Beast or A Small Killing (wasn't an Avatar at first but the newest edition is)?

[borntohula]

I'd be up to that.

Great !

Which forum is better to put the thread in then? Classic comics & Collected Editions or The DC comics forum?

[Billy Batson]

Great !

Which forum is better to put the thread in then? Classic comics & Collected Editions or The DC comics forum?

Probably this one since this board used to have bunch of review/discussion threads, though I'm not sure if it's old enough for the board.

[borntohula]

Probably this one since this board used to have bunch of review/discussion threads, though I'm not sure if it's old enough for the board.

I'll give it a try here then. I think it could work since while the forum says classics it also says: "collected editions of your favorite stories!".

Reminds me. I should take a photo of some of my shelfporn.

[danmar85]

I'll give it a try here then. I think it could work since while the forum says classics it also says: "collected editions of your favorite stories!".

Reminds me. I should take a photo of some of my shelfporn.

If you're unsure just ask a moderator. In this case NZInferno or SJNeal mod the Collected Editions thread.

[Endsville]

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Thanks for the heads up on that Neonomicon hardcover. Like you, I won't cross my fingers quite yet, even if I do get an e-mail saying it's shipped in the next few days or so, but I'd really love if it were this good to be true. Can't say I have much experience with many horror comics but most of what I've read in that genre has been terrible, Neonomicon a rare exception. Which brings me to...

awesome! I mentioned Neonomicon and I stated that it was basically Lovecraft + porn and it kinda disturbed me and didn't get the point of it. If I'm not mistaken you liked the story (that's why you bought the lmtd, signed hc) so if you are in the mood don't hesitate to explain to me why is it a good book (sometimes I need convincing to see things in a different light and in case of Alan Moore I'm quite convincible that the story is good and I just don't get it...or got it years ago when I've read it).

Vark already answered this, but I suppose I'll weigh in too. Although it's definitely a disturbing book, I don't think that's quite what makes it special, especially seeing as many books are that already. The word I'd use instead is oppressing, which it increasingly is the further you read, closing in on the reader and the characters of the book (this latter part is somewhat reflected in Burrow's artwork, I think) until that utterly hopeless ending is reached, at which point the story abruptly ends. It kind of leaves you exhausted, you know? No doubt there's comics out there that do this even better, but for comparison's sake, the only horror comic I've read better than Neonomicon is John Smith's Cradlegrave published in 2000AD several years ago.

To be honest, though, even if I were to go read some of the more highly recommended of horror comics, I'm not sure I'd find much really better than those two, especially the latter. It's a notoriously difficult genre to pull off well in any medium, and I think that comics are probably the second hardest place to do so after novels, the more easier places being films and video games. Yet interestingly enough, they're just as likely the better places to create something truly disturbing and unforgettable. Those are my thoughts anyway.

[Mobe1969]

Can anyone help with location of Final Incal at a decent price, just the 12" one (to match the deluxe Metabarons, Before the Incal etc)? My preorder got canned, and I'm ultra confused now with the multitude of ISBNs there now. The ISBN I had ordered was 9781594650772. And I'm now no longer sure that is even the right one.

Edit: Or even if that ISBN is released yet.

[johnsme]

Latest:
This is my first Top Shelf order from the sale. Kept trimming the list from the bunch of stuff I excitedly put in my cart. I keep going back and filling the cart again for another order, then stopping myself. Lots of other books to buy elsewhere.
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couldnt be more excited to get this. Been waiting forever for it. I have the single issues from #13. Was a bit bummed at the announcement that this would only collect the first six issues. Hope it doesnt take to long for Round Two to come out.
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[Jon Rock]

Can anyone help with location of Final Incal at a decent price, just the 12" one (to match the deluxe Metabarons, Before the Incal etc)? My preorder got canned, and I'm ultra confused now with the multitude of ISBNs there now. The ISBN I had ordered was 9781594650772. And I'm now no longer sure that is even the right one.

Edit: Or even if that ISBN is released yet.

Going by the Humanoids site the ISBN for the Oversized Deluxe Edition is 9781594650864, that however is the limited to 1500 copies Slipcase Hardcover that recently came out. It looks like the ISBN you had ordered in one coming out in November Measuring 15 inches High by 12 Inches Wide.

[victorxd1999]

Thanks for the heads up on that Neonomicon hardcover. Like you, I won't cross my fingers quite yet, even if I do get an e-mail saying it's shipped in the next few days or so, but I'd really love if it were this good to be true. Can't say I have much experience with many horror comics but most of what I've read in that genre has been terrible, Neonomicon a rare exception. Which brings me to...



Vark already answered this, but I suppose I'll weigh in too. Although it's definitely a disturbing book, I don't think that's quite what makes it special, especially seeing as many books are that already. The word I'd use instead is oppressing, which it increasingly is the further you read, closing in on the reader and the characters of the book (this latter part is somewhat reflected in Burrow's artwork, I think) until that utterly hopeless ending is reached, at which point the story abruptly ends. It kind of leaves you exhausted, you know? No doubt there's comics out there that do this even better, but for comparison's sake, the only horror comic I've read better than Neonomicon is John Smith's Cradlegrave published in 2000AD several years ago.

To be honest, though, even if I were to go read some of the more highly recommended of horror comics, I'm not sure I'd find much really better than those two, especially the latter. It's a notoriously difficult genre to pull off well in any medium, and I think that comics are probably the second hardest place to do so after novels, the more easier places being films and video games. Yet interestingly enough, they're just as likely the better places to create something truly disturbing and unforgettable. Those are my thoughts anyway.

Definitely agree on the horror genre. I think the only 100% horror comic I liked was Locke&Key, which was just awesome.

[Mobe1969]

Going by the Humanoids site the ISBN for the Oversized Deluxe Edition is 9781594650864, that however is the limited to 1500 copies Slipcase Hardcover that recently came out. It looks like the ISBN you had ordered in one coming out in November Measuring 15 inches High by 12 Inches Wide.

Thanks. So I'd ordered the wrong one anyhow... So three different IDBNs in a short period...

[danmar85]

Thanks. So I'd ordered the wrong one anyhow... So three different IDBNs in a short period...

Here's what some searching dug up. Hope it's helpful. Based on what I found I would consider the dimensions of your cancelled book unknown. Unless Amazon or Bookdepository does a good job of listing proper dimensions?

Taken from the Humanoids site.

Final Incal - Coffee Table Book : 200 Copies Limited Ultra-Deluxe Edition
Limited to 200 numbered copies. Includes a slipcase, 3 loose illustrations, and a signed bookplate by Jodorowsky & Ladrönn.
Also contains the original 56 pages drawn by Mœbius of the unfinished first version of the story (After The Incal).

May 2014
Collection : Humanoids Inc.
Edition : Coffee Table Book
216 pages - 12 x 16 inches - Color
EAN 9781594650871
$590 - £360

(Amazon listed dimensions don't match: 19.7 x 15.8 x 2.6)


Taken from the Humanoids site.

Final Incal - Oversized Deluxe Edition : Classic Collection
Limited to 1500 numbered copies, this edition comes in a slipcase.
Also contains the original 56 pages drawn by Mœbius of the unfinished first version of the story (After The Incal).

May 2014
Collection : Humanoids Inc.
Edition : Oversized Deluxe Edition
216 pages - 9.4 x 12.6 inches - Color
EAN 9781594650864
$99.95 - £59.99

(Amazon dimensions are almost identical: 13 x 9.6 x 1.2)


Final Incal - Only edition unlisted on the Humanoids site as of yet. (This is the ISBN you provided)

Important Note: This edition does not include Mœbius's After the Incal material.

Release Date: November 5th
ISBN-13: 978-1594650772
Dimensions: Neither source matches.
Amazon - 12.6 x 9.4 x 0.9
Book Depository - 15.94 x 12 x .94 (Converted from mm)

[Mobe1969]

Thanks danmar85 - yes that November 5th edition that I'd ordered is the one really confusing me. The fact that there are several sizes listed for it. Not to mention that isn't listed on the Humanoids site.

I have tried to order the "Oversized Deluxe Editiion" today from another store, and hopefully I'll get it. That is the one I wanted...