"I Command You To Kiss My Boot, Superman!" - Carol Ferris Appreciation

[liwanag]

glad to hear that morrison has plans for carol...

[j9ac9k]

glad to hear that morrison has plans for carol...

I am a bit apprehensive that he plans to include Carol - especially when he keeps talking about "all the women in Hal's life." I like that he understands that Carol is the love of his life, but it doesn't sound like he wants to tell us a love story. (unless he really does and by the time he leaves the title he'll put them back together again like Venditti did - just to see it undone with the next creative team. But that's comics, right?)

Ultimately, I just hope he writes their scenes well and doesn't give us a cliched dynamic between these two life-long loves.

[Frontier]

I am a bit apprehensive that he plans to include Carol - especially when he keeps talking about "all the women in Hal's life." I like that he understands that Carol is the love of his life, but it doesn't sound like he wants to tell us a love story. (unless he really does and by the time he leaves the title he'll put them back together again like Venditti did - just to see it undone with the next creative team. But that's comics, right?)

Ultimately, I just hope he writes their scenes well and doesn't give us a cliched dynamic between these two life-long loves.

I don't know if it'll be a "love story," but given how he refers to Carol I'm guessing she'll have a pretty big impact once she finally shows up in his run, especially compared to Hal's other old flames that will appear.

[WallyWestFlash]

I don't really know what Morrison is talking about with "All the Women in Hal's life". There really weren't any others besides for Carol.

There was Eve when Hal left Coast city the first time during Kane's run. She lasted one issue. She did come back during Wolfman's run for a few issues. She still had the hots for Hal but Hal wasn't into it and she disappeared after a couple of issues.

Is he talking about Kari Limbo? She was Guy Gardners girl and O'Neil threw her and Hal together very unnaturally just to stir up some drama which also lasted about two or three issue.

Arisia was the only other significant relationship besides for Carol.

But really I don't know where this comes from that Hal went through a plethera of women. Superman and Batman have had many more girlfriends than Hal.

[j9ac9k]

Olivia Reynolds - she was a bit nutty. Some kind of psychic powers. That girl from the 57th century who was in love with him as Pol Manning. Those are certainly unusual as relationships go. Not sure who else, but even with Carol it was weird since she was also one of his worst enemies and the Arisia aging thing is ... better left unmentioned. :x

And I think Morrison mentions the women as having strange connections to Hal rather than being significant relationships. He even mentions non-sexual ones. Who would that be - Rose? Dinah? I'd love to see his take on how Hal and Wonder Woman relate to each other - I feel that's something that's never really touched upon. (aside from that idiotic fight at the beginning of Johns/Lee's JLA)

[Johnny]

Carol, Eve, Olivia, Arisia, Kari and Cowgirl. And probably that Jennifer chick whose name he couldn't remember after their one-night stand. Those are the only ones I can think of. Unless Morrison means that other than the aforementioned, he would also bring in new characters that Hal's had relationships with in the past that we haven't seen before. He did mention "Hal has had lives on other worlds, too".

[WallyWestFlash]

Olivia Reynolds - she was a bit nutty. Some kind of psychic powers. That girl from the 57th century who was in love with him as Pol Manning. Those are certainly unusual as relationships go. Not sure who else, but even with Carol it was weird since she was also one of his worst enemies and the Arisia aging thing is ... better left unmentioned. :x

Olivia Reynolds wasn't a love interest. She was competition for a rival Toy company when Hal was selling toys. And only showed up for one or two issues. Yeah, maybe the girl from the 57th century, (Another redhead) but she only had a time with him in the limited, sporadic times Hal traveled there. And he was Pol Manning when he was with her.

Carol, Eve, Olivia, Arisia, Kari and Cowgirl. And probably that Jennifer chick whose name he couldn't remember after their one-night stand. Those are the only ones I can think of. Unless Morrison means that other than the aforementioned, he would also bring in new characters that Hal's had relationships in the past that we haven't seen before. He did mention "Hal has had lives on other worlds, too".

Cowgirl was barely a thing if I recall. It was just starting to maybe become something when Johns brought Carol back and then shot Hal into space.

[Frontier]

Cowgirl was barely a thing if I recall. It was just starting to maybe become something when Johns brought Carol back and then shot Hal into space.

Well, with Cowgirl they were dating and living together prior to Brightest Day where she vanished off the face of the Earth.

I think the last time Johns brought her up was when Carol told Hal he had a girlfriend when he confronted her about confessing her love to him during Blackest Night.

[docmidnite]

I don't really know what Morrison is talking about with "All the Women in Hal's life". There really weren't any others besides for Carol.

There was Eve when Hal left Coast city the first time during Kane's run. She lasted one issue. She did come back during Wolfman's run for a few issues. She still had the hots for Hal but Hal wasn't into it and she disappeared after a couple of issues.

Is he talking about Kari Limbo? She was Guy Gardners girl and O'Neil threw her and Hal together very unnaturally just to stir up some drama which also lasted about two or three issue.

Dorine Clay, Joan Colby who was a resort owner in Idaho, Delia Pharon, Rose Harden... These are the other women outside of Carol, Jillian/Cowgirl, Eve, Olivia, Kari, Arisia and Power Girl that Hal had relationships (of varying degrees) with over the years off the top of my head.

[mrbrklyn]

Olivia Reynolds wasn't a love interest. She was competition for a rival Toy company when Hal was selling toys. And only showed up for one or two issues. Yeah, maybe the girl from the 57th century, (Another redhead) but she only had a time with him in the limited, sporadic times Hal traveled there. And he was Pol Manning when he was with her.



Cowgirl was barely a thing if I recall. It was just starting to maybe become something when Johns brought Carol back and then shot Hal into space.

That 57th cenutry storyline just died and it was a lot of fun

[docmidnite]

And probably that Jennifer chick whose name he couldn't remember after their one-night stand.

Actually, her name was Julie, Ha... er... I mean Johnny...

[Johnny]

Actually, her name was Julie, Ha... er... I mean Johnny...

The husbands of our boy's former girlfriends are in for a rude awakening in the Morrison book. lol

[lemonpeace]

Did Carol kill John Stewart's wife in this timeline?

[AngryComicBookNerd]

Did Carol kill John Stewart's wife in this timeline?

Yes..... question mark? Katma is dead, we know that. And she asked about John in that green afterlife world Hal went to so their past relationship is confirmed. During Geoff Johns run, he made it so everything that happened in the past including Star Sapphire killing Katma still happened but that was before Carol took control so it didn't count. I think we have another Schrodinger's cat scenario which was a staple of rebirth. It both did and did not happen but we won't know for sure until one of the stories actually addresses it. Goldface killing Tomar Re was pre 52 and that remained, so who knows?

[AngryComicBookNerd]

I like that Morrison regards Carol as Hal's #1. I have a feeling we're going to see some complicated things as other women come back into his life. And they don't all necessarily have to be romantic. I'll still wait and see the tone that he sets in issue #1, but so far it seems like we'll get an interesting read. The better read would be perusing a copy of Star Sapphire #1, but in the real world I'll take what I get from Morrison. I just hope he doesn't do any of those stupid sitcom tropes. Hal wakes up in Cowgirl's bed after some honest misunderstanding then Carol walks in and loses her schitt.