I still find it difficult to reconcile the continuity problems, but I think if you did not like Azz's run you probably did like this issue.
Last edited by Pinsir; 11-21-2014 at 04:32 PM.
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Well, I'll be very honest and say that after how horrible i thought Azz's run was, there really was nowhere to go but "up" but at the same time, I wouldn't have rated Meredith's first issue at 8.5 if I didn't honestly think it deserved it. To give you more perspective, I would have given most of Azz's issues a 2 or a 3 so even though most anything would have been better, there is a lot of wiggle room between a 3 and an 8.5.
A lot of my reasoning for finding it hard to imagine those who first started reading Wonder Woman with Azz would like Meredith's run is largely because of these factors:
1.) The book is clearly now part of the greater New 52 universe.
2.) The Olympians, Orion, and Zola(all of which were major supporting characters) are nowhere in sight.
3.) The art and the coloring are very different from the previous run.
4.) The tone of the book appears to be lighter and absent of Azzarello's deviant elements like beastiality, cannibalism, and sexual assault.
With the exception of my last point, many of the people who appreciated Azz's run often stated that the main reasons they liked it were because it was almost totally cut-off from the rest of the New 52, the supporting cast, and the art/colors. With all of these things very different now, is it really a stretch to think this run wouldn't be up most Azz-fans' alley?
Currently(or soon to be) Reading: Alan Scott: Green Lantern, Batman/Superman: World's Finest, Fire & Ice: Welcome to Smallville, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Jay Garrick: The Flash, Justice Society of America, Power Girl, Superman, Shazam, Titans, Wesley Dodds: Sandman, Wonder Woman, & World's Finest: Teen Titans.
It's bad because it's bad.
My only gripe about what this did to the previous run was how fast and without substance Hippolyta was "killed" when I was eager to see what would happen next with clay statue Hippolyta, since she didn't have an end in the previous run.
And I don't know where is the "lighter tone", certainly not on the art. Maybe on the vegetative injustice. Or because of the plug-ins in the watchtower.
Now about the art, this is what will be missed most from Chiang: facial expressions range.
Just look at this... Diana has the same face in every. single. panel. Even when she has her eyes closed.
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I guess Finch is at least consistent, though. If it was Tony Daniel, her face would be completely different in each panel even with the same expression.
Last edited by Vonter Voman; 11-21-2014 at 03:50 PM.
Currently(or soon to be) Reading: Alan Scott: Green Lantern, Batman/Superman: World's Finest, Fire & Ice: Welcome to Smallville, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Jay Garrick: The Flash, Justice Society of America, Power Girl, Superman, Shazam, Titans, Wesley Dodds: Sandman, Wonder Woman, & World's Finest: Teen Titans.
Still with the "regretment" thing, huh? I said back then people mostly enjoyed it, and now this is evident by the rates given displayed on comic book roundup. Isn't this the proof you needed?
And now that we know some things were left to be resolved in the current run, I'm even more happy about the ending.
Funny coming from the person who said "Anyone but Azzarello" wasn't true.Well, I'll be very honest and say that after how horrible i thought Azz's run was, there really was nowhere to go but "up"
Last edited by Vonter Voman; 11-21-2014 at 03:56 PM.
I almost didn't read superhero comics before giving Azz/Chiang's run a chance.
As said, there's one issue out as of yet. I'll give it a couple of issues till I decide what to make of it. And while I saw/sense some similarites, it doesn't bother me much if they're doing something else. It's Finchs run, not the last creative team. I'm hoping they get to do their own thing.
I don't compare Azz/Chiang's with Perez run either. I know whom of them I like the most, but for me it's not some competetion.
I don't. I love the ending. WW#35 followed by WW#Secret Origins. Makes the story go full circle and puts a focus on Athena's involvment in Diana's journey. Left me satisfied while wanting to read more WW stuff.
Last edited by borntohula; 11-21-2014 at 04:30 PM.
Despite the obvious difference in quality and the guest stars galore for the sake of it, yes, it's very similar. Much more similar than any other run. Justice Leaguers appearing on it doesn't make it more like pre-new 52.
And it's only going to get more similar with the God of War stuff.
Last edited by Vonter Voman; 11-21-2014 at 04:12 PM.
Currently(or soon to be) Reading: Alan Scott: Green Lantern, Batman/Superman: World's Finest, Fire & Ice: Welcome to Smallville, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Jay Garrick: The Flash, Justice Society of America, Power Girl, Superman, Shazam, Titans, Wesley Dodds: Sandman, Wonder Woman, & World's Finest: Teen Titans.
Currently(or soon to be) Reading: Alan Scott: Green Lantern, Batman/Superman: World's Finest, Fire & Ice: Welcome to Smallville, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Jay Garrick: The Flash, Justice Society of America, Power Girl, Superman, Shazam, Titans, Wesley Dodds: Sandman, Wonder Woman, & World's Finest: Teen Titans.
There's 20 pages in this issue and more than 700 in Azz/Chiang run. I'm pretty sure at least Demeter is similar to Swamp Thing.
I'm sure you honestly think it deserves it, but how can even you know if you would have felt the same way if the book came out right after Jiminez? You don't even have to know this; your opinion is totally valid, whether it's affected by the prior run or not. But so is everyone else's; no one is objective.
A lot of my reasoning for finding it hard to imagine those who first started reading Wonder Woman with Azz would like Meredith's run is largely because of these factors:
1.) The book is clearly now part of the greater New 52 universe.
2.) The Olympians, Orion, and Zola(all of which were major supporting characters) are nowhere in sight.
3.) The art and the coloring are very different from the previous run.
4.) The tone of the book appears to be lighter and absent of Azzarello's deviant elements like beastiality, cannibalism, and sexual assault.
With the exception of my last point, many of the people who appreciated Azz's run often stated that the main reasons they liked it were because it was almost totally cut-off from the rest of the New 52, the supporting cast, and the art/colors. With all of these things very different now, is it really a stretch to think this run wouldn't be up most Azz-fans' alley?
I, as one of "the people who appreciated Azz's run," I can tell you that none of those changes will not me from liking this one if it develops an interesting new voice of its own. It just hasn't started to do that yet, in my view.. And believe me, if it had Zola and the gods in it and art and coloring more similar to the old run and had no references to the rest of the DCU but still had this writing and this juvenile writing, I still wouldn't be impressed.
Last edited by Silvanus; 11-21-2014 at 05:13 PM.