In general, the whole issue presents Diana as someone who is not entirely comfortable with how much her boyfriend attends to the needs of the weak. Despite knowing Clark for a significant amount of time, Diana still seems to find so much of who he is and what he does as curious and worth questioning. The fact that Clark mentions explaining his writing process to Diana numerous times before this particular date night, for example, suggests Diana is continues to struggle with fundamental aspects of Clark's personality and behavior. Diana herself even says that she can't pretend she understands him, which is obvious since even after he explains how his writing was honoring the lives that were lost, Diana still insists that Clark is dwelling on death. Before finally heading out on their date, Diana claims she's happy if he's happy, yet when Clark is clearly happy to help some folks find much needed taxis in the rain, Diana doesn't seem so happy. In other words, there's a clash between what Diana says and how she behaves.
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
If ten years of recording The Young and the Restless for my mother have taught me anything, it's that characters in serial dramas are always happily in love...until they're not
“The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views...which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering.” - the 4th Doctor
1. WW is only attracted to Superman because of his powers. His compassion and connection to humanity, the things that make him Superman, are not appealing to her and she doesn't understand them.
2. She broke up with Steve and was cold to him because of his lack of powers, he wasn't good enough for her
3. WW does not follow the same path as Superman.
This whole relationship has done nothing for Superman. Wonder Woman brings nothing very substantial to the table, except she has powers and DC could make the a "power couple." Its not helped by the fact that every writer completely redoes Wonder Woman, she has very little consistency. The franchise does not need to be burdened by something like that.
While I get some people don't like the couple... this is nonsensical.
Wonder Woman fyi would not need to get together with Superman to rule the world. She can do it herself if she really wanted to. And since no writer has ever showed her wanting to even do that... (Azzarello's WW could have hooked up with any Gods be it Hades, Apollo, First Born if she was so power hungry as you claim)...your assessment is way off.
Because Injustice makes Clark a weak willed bully willing to forget his principles and trying to place the blame on the "woman" let's not think that rubbish writing for a game that is motivated by heroes beating each other up even applies to the Superman and the Wonder Woman in the new 52.
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I honestly don't see such a clash. Reading this issue, I don't see any indication that this is a significant point of contention. When I read this issue, I see a story that focuses on some of the core differences between two character. And there's noting wrong with that. No matter how much two people love each other, they're going to have differences. They're going to have disagreements. We've seen, going all the way back to the first few issues of Justice League, that Clark and Diana have a different approach when it comes to being a hero. Clark is more reserved in that he tries to hold back. He has to because his power is just that great. Diana is more inclined to push harder and move forward. That's what makes her such a strong woman and a powerful warrior. And in the end, she does manage to get Clark to pull himself away from his writing so they could go on their date. It's not like he was overly stubborn about it. This is really pretty consistent how ordinary couples act. These two just happen to have god-like powers. And I think that's part of what makes the pairing so compelling. They're so powerful, but at the same time they're so human.
I think the theme of this first issue was to establish some of the key differences between Clark and Diana. By focusing on these differences, it puts them in a position to learn from one another. That's key in any relationship. Differences don't have to tear each other apart. They can also help a relationship grow. It's not clear which direction Tomsai will take right now, but I think he's established a good foundation for his run.
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Well now that the dust has settled and I've been able to read the issue I can honestly say that without a doubt I actually enjoyed myself. At most any problems I my have are nitpicks. I really think the some people on here blew what I thought were funny on insentient parts in the book out of proportion. I really enjoyed both Superman and Wonder Woman in this issue after the flashback.
I really thought the back and forth was pretty funny. As a Superman fan I really than the writer for showing off that heart of gold that I think makes him who he is. I really enjoyed how it was even played for comedic effect with the four cabs, "ten minutes and hour ago" regarding the story he was writing. Now my only thing is can the writer bring the evils worst nightmare tough guy aspect of the character in too while he's in a fight. Regardless of what people think the two are not mutually exclusive.
How can a story that focuses on a core difference between the two characters not indicate there is a significant point of contention? Usually, when a difference is just a difference rather than a source of conflict, it is presented as not causing conflict. This issue definitely suggested that one of the couple's core differences repeatedly caused tension in the relationship.
I don't find this sort of conflict even remotely compelling, especially the way it was handled in this issue. It feels harsh and contrived rather than compelling and organic. Over and over again, Superman and Wonder Woman stories use this particular conflict to create drama. Diana's strategic, controlled warrior nature is consistently contrasted with Clark's more compassionate, emotional alien/human nature. It's become so consistent a theme that it now reads as a fundamental clash of personalities rather than complementary differences that add texture to the relationship. Neither of them seems to care to adapt or accept their partner's needs and preferences without significant pressure or argument. At this point in their relationship, if I'm to believe they understand and accept each other's differences and flaws, I'd expect them to be able to handle disagreements that stem from their core differences with more self-awareness and grace.No matter how much two people love each other, they're going to have differences. They're going to have disagreements. We've seen, going all the way back to the first few issues of Justice League, that Clark and Diana have a different approach when it comes to being a hero. Clark is more reserved in that he tries to hold back. He has to because his power is just that great. Diana is more inclined to push harder and move forward. That's what makes her such a strong woman and a powerful warrior. And in the end, she does manage to get Clark to pull himself away from his writing so they could go on their date. It's not like he was overly stubborn about it. This is really pretty consistent how ordinary couples act. These two just happen to have god-like powers. And I think that's part of what makes the pairing so compelling. They're so powerful, but at the same time they're so human.
I disagree. I found the way the issue established the key differences to be tone deaf and inorganic.I think the theme of this first issue was to establish some of the key differences between Clark and Diana. By focusing on these differences, it puts them in a position to learn from one another. That's key in any relationship. Differences don't have to tear each other apart. They can also help a relationship grow. It's not clear which direction Tomsai will take right now, but I think he's established a good foundation for his run.