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I think the Duke/Claire stuff is closer to issue #100 of King's run, since he's been totally silent on the "death of Batman" stuff for a full year and a half.
I disagree that Steph is just a love interest for Tim, especially since in Tec she's broken up with him and functioning on her own (much to my mixed feelings) for so long.
I do love to think that Tim and Steph are married with lots of tiny babies who love their aunt Cass in New Order, though.
None of these futures really matter, though. Just look at futures in the past - they function as trajectories that inform the present continuity, but another regime of writers and editors come in, they'll just go and do something dumb like declare Batman Beyond is the official future.
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I don't see how the Colony couldn't have gotten folded into the New Order. Not saying that's how it is - after all, this is a universe that's much more from Higgin's Gates of Gotham continuity extrapolated rather than n52 or Rebirth continuity extrapolated, but I think it's possible.
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If it was just King excluding her from a possible future? Fine, whatever, he's done this before, it's annoying* and it just contributes more to my not wanting to read anything written by the man. But...
*The presence of Duke and especially Carrie is frankly infuriating.
...it's the fact that he brought up there being a "reason" that has me worried. If this is seriously the direction King sees the BatFamily going in and will have things building towards, there's reason to be concerned. It implies that there are plans to get rid of her and/or the "reason" why she isn't there is because in the eyes of DC, she isn't as important to Bruce as his other kids (Or bloody Duke and Carrie) but as much of an acquaintance as JPV and Luke.
If nothing has happened on this end by August, I'll definitely be seeing what I can find out from Tynion.
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I try to remind myself of that. I'd probably have a better feeling about the situation if Snyder was sticking around, but at the same time it does seem like DC wants Tynion to become one of their big names that sticks around for many, many years so hopefully he does have the power to veto any plans King may be cooking.
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In the case of Cass: He wrote Gates of Gotham, which was originally intended to be all about her before editorial decided they wanted it to focus on the group, he wanted to use her in Batman #1 (We don't have confirmation about the reason behind Harper's creation but this much I think we know is true), it was his influence later on which made DC give in to the fans and let him and Tynion bring her (and Steph) back and in Batman and the Signal's first issue, it may have just been a dream sequence, but she still had a place at the table in Duke's mind.
Higgins wrote Gates of Gotham. Snyder's involvement was about as much as with the Eternal series.
I acknowledged that his lending his name to the Eternals was important in their history. But Batman and the Signal is just another case of him lending his name.
I dunno. I'm sure he likes reading about them. But he has no interest whatsoever in actually writing them himself.
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Because he fights to include them. Who wanted Batman continuity kept when the New 52 just after reintroducing her back into the family? Snyder. Who brought Stephanie back? Synder. Cassandra? Snyder. He's been very open of the battles he had to do deal with editorial in matters such as these. Kind of surprising he's frank about it on why we know what we know.
I just wonder why this is even still a battle? When certain parties who aren't fond of this character are on other comics on the opposite spectrum or not even editor of the comics any longer. Then just who is that force then that continues to set this character back? Cause it's obivious there are creators out there who aren't fond of this character. And they're doing their damnest to quell it any chance they get.
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He fights to have other people include them. Basically, he fights to tell other people how to write. Now, for Tynion, that worked, because Tynion does love these characters. But for other writers? I don't see it. And Snyder's solo stuff has NEVER contained Steph or Cass. It's always been co-writing stuff. Additionally, saying that it's Snyder who brought Steph and Cass back is not giving Tynion credit for how much he did. Snyder and Tynion were partners, but Tynion did the day-to-day "showrunning," not to mention writing the most issues in both series.
Why do I keep bringing up my irritation with Snyder about Steph and Cass? Because he keeps doing it. He says "I love Steph and Cass," and writes them into exactly zero issues of Batman, while he includes Harper, Duke, and Julia in several key issues. Are Steph or Cass in All Star Batman? Nope. But Duke has a backup solo story.
On the one hand, I get it. He created Duke. He gets money for him, so he wants to make sure Duke is established so when he leaves Gotham, Duke can't be ignored. But using Duke doesn't mean he couldn't have included Steph and Cass. But he didn't. And that really bothers me.
"We're the same thing, you and I. We're both lies that eventually became the truth." Lara Notsil, Star Wars: X-Wing: Solo Command, Aaron Allston
"All that is not eternal is eternally out of date." C. S. Lewis, The Four Loves
"There's room in our line of work for hope, too." Stephanie Brown
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"We're the same thing, you and I. We're both lies that eventually became the truth." Lara Notsil, Star Wars: X-Wing: Solo Command, Aaron Allston
"All that is not eternal is eternally out of date." C. S. Lewis, The Four Loves
"There's room in our line of work for hope, too." Stephanie Brown
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Art based off the newest issue of 'Tec by cadhla182 on Tumblr:
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