Cassandra Cain (Batgirl, Black Bat) Appreciation

[Assam]

I feel like we already knew this, but we have confirmation that Tom Taylor is a fan.

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/st...33052356780032

If Hill does right by Cass as I think he will then he should definitely get any potential solo with her, but Taylor is still one of the writers I'd most like to see get a crack at writing her.

Also reaffirmation of James Gunn being a fan.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/993339780992823296

[Frontier]

I feel like we already knew this, but we have confirmation that Tom Taylor is a fan.

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/st...33052356780032

If Hill does right by Cass as I think he will then he should definitely get any potential solo with her, but Taylor is still one of the writers I'd most like to see get a crack at writing her.

Also reaffirmation of James Gunn being a fan.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/993339780992823296

Always nice to see more Cass fans among comic book professionals (both in comics and movies) .

I'm curious to see if Taylor taking a crack at Cass would be different from how he handled Laura in All-New Wolverine. I guess probably the biggest difference is who he has available to guest star in the book.

And I'm glad Gunn agrees on how awesome a costume Cass had .

[Raijin]

I feel like we already knew this, but we have confirmation that Tom Taylor is a fan.

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/st...33052356780032

If Hill does right by Cass as I think he will then he should definitely get any potential solo with her, but Taylor is still one of the writers I'd most like to see get a crack at writing her.

Also reaffirmation of James Gunn being a fan.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/993339780992823296

I think Taylor could write a good Early 2000's Cass. I say Early 2000's because that's the only version I know of. I don't know anything about her New 52/Rebirth stuff and I'm scared to even find out.

[Assam]

I don't know anything about her New 52/Rebirth stuff and I'm scared to even find out.

My take: Do not view RebirthCass as the exact same character. In nearly every way, classicCass is insurmountably superior (although credit where its due to Tynion for not doing anything similar to the psychic from the original series), but if you just see RebirthCass the same way you'd see a media adaptation of a character, she's still one of the best characters in the DCU and still 'Cass'.

As far as the stories she's been in goes, you definitely shouldn't read Batman and Robin:Eternal (except for issue #13, which is pretty great) and I can't really recommend 'Tec. Cass has, usually, been one of the few characters in the book to be consistently written well and most detractors of the book tend to cite Cass and Clayface's friendship as the book's saving grace. Problem is, despite all that, she doesn't get much to do (Tim and Kate REALLY hog the panel time in the book) and of the six major arcs which have finished (the last arc has two issues to go), two have been hot garbage, two have been passable and two were almost great (including Cass's focus arc) but they were both held back by a myriad of problems, not the least of which being that both of them were set-ups for future arcs which will now never happen.

Regardless of it you read any of that though, I guess you'll be meeting RebirthCass for the first time in Hill's run.

[millernumber1]

My take: Do not view RebirthCass as the exact same character. In nearly every way, classicCass is insurmountably superior (although credit where its due to Tynion for not doing anything similar to the psychic from the original series), but if you just see RebirthCass the same way you'd see a media adaptation of a character, she's still one of the best characters in the DCU and still 'Cass'.

As far as the stories she's been in goes, you definitely shouldn't read Batman and Robin:Eternal (except for issue #13, which is pretty great) and I can't really recommend 'Tec. Cass has, usually, been one of the few characters in the book to be consistently written well and most detractors of the book tend to cite Cass and Clayface's friendship as the book's saving grace. Problem is, despite all that, she doesn't get much to do (Tim and Kate REALLY hog the panel time in the book) and of the six major arcs which have finished (the last arc has two issues to go), two have been hot garbage, two have been passable and two were almost great (including Cass's focus arc) but they were both held back by a myriad of problems, not the least of which being that both of them were set-ups for future arcs which will now never happen.

Regardless of it you read any of that though, I guess you'll be meeting RebirthCass for the first time in Hill's run.

A fair analysis, especially from a Cass-centric perspective. I do completely agree that Cass has been a different character since she was returned to continuity (though I think the differences are still well withing the range of what one can expect from Cass given different writers are always coming in and out). I do think Tynion's Tec has some really excellent stuff for Cass, and is generally worth reading, especially for her relationship with Basil, and for issues like #950, which like Batman and Robin Eternal #13, are a really lovely Cass solo story.

[The Dying Detective]

A fair analysis, especially from a Cass-centric perspective. I do completely agree that Cass has been a different character since she was returned to continuity (though I think the differences are still well withing the range of what one can expect from Cass given different writers are always coming in and out). I do think Tynion's Tec has some really excellent stuff for Cass, and is generally worth reading, especially for her relationship with Basil, and for issues like #950, which like Batman and Robin Eternal #13, are a really lovely Cass solo story.

What was Cassandra personality like in Post-Crisis anyway?

[Assam]

I'm okay...I'm okay.

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I can breath.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[Cmbmool]

I'm okay...I'm okay.

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I can breath.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Long overdue if you asked me.

[omnipotentimpotent]

I'm okay...I'm okay.

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I can breath.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Is it wrong I got teary eyed when I saw those panels in real life just now????

[adrikito]

i feel like we already knew this, but we have confirmation that tom taylor is a fan.

https://twitter.com/tomtaylormade/st...33052356780032

if hill does right by cass as i think he will then he should definitely get any potential solo with her, but taylor is still one of the writers i'd most like to see get a crack at writing her.

Also reaffirmation of james gunn being a fan.

https://twitter.com/jamesgunn/status/993339780992823296

good signal.

I'm okay...I'm okay.

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I can breath.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

I liked this even more than I expected.

[Darkspellmaster]

I feel like we already knew this, but we have confirmation that Tom Taylor is a fan.

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/st...33052356780032

If Hill does right by Cass as I think he will then he should definitely get any potential solo with her, but Taylor is still one of the writers I'd most like to see get a crack at writing her.

Also reaffirmation of James Gunn being a fan.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/993339780992823296

Tom's work on All New Wolverine and X-men Red would be a shoe in to write for Cass. I would have loved to have seen it.

[StonedVolus]

Is it wrong I got teary eyed when I saw those panels in real life just now????

If it's wrong, I don't want to be right.

EDIT: References to prior Cass moments. I recognised them straight away.
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[Cmbmool]

IF ANYTHING IS TO COME FROM DOOMSDAY CLOCK, Then let Cass regain her position in the Batman family. I would love to see her more included in these Batman family moments.

[PyroTwilight]

About the only bit I found odd in the Cass splash was joking about her "Orphan" codename. Isn't that well, just a codename because her dad was an "Orphan" too codename wise? That's what someone's told me before anyway.

[Assam]

If it's wrong, I don't want to be right.

I recognized them straight away.
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Same.

About the only bit I found odd in the Cass splash was joking about her "Orphan" codename. Isn't that well, just a codename because her dad was an "Orphan" too codename wise? That's what someone's told me before anyway.

Its been explained a few times, primarily in #950, that the codename, to her, has really been about how alone she feels in the world.

I look forward to never seeing her referred to by that name again after #981.