Cassandra Cain (Batgirl, Black Bat) Appreciation

[DurararaFTW]

Are you sure? How do we know?

Not sure, we don't "know" anything about the peripheral characters. Cassandra could be Shiva's mom now too, it's just unlikely. It'd be a waste to throw away the work done with Shiva's character, good or bad, for just a retread of a relationship with a character, only featured in a book where Shiva definitely won't appear.

[joybeans]

Are you sure? How do we know?

Tom DeFalco says that they were both teenagers when they met: http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2012/08...ightwing-13-14

On the other hand, it's Tom DeFalco.

[The Whovian]

Tom DeFalco says that they were both teenagers when they met: http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2012/08...ightwing-13-14

On the other hand, it's Tom DeFalco.

But until it's actually written in a book, we really don't know. We don't know hardly anything about this new Cass

[joybeans]

Still, it might be too soon for yet another lovechild between Bruce and an assassin.

[DurararaFTW]

But until it's actually written in a book, we really don't know. We don't know hardly anything about this new Cass

Just that she's listed among orphans who parents are supposedly killed by Mother's crownies and Lady Shiva, if nothing else, seems to be alive.

[joybeans]

But until it's actually written in a book, we really don't know. We don't know hardly anything about this new Cass

It is written in a book after all. It's Tom DeFalco, but here you go.

[godisawesome]

Okay, forgive me for being the English teacher I'm employed as, but her response there is ambiguously worded in such a way that it doesn't clearly agree with Nightwing's supposition.

Plus it was a bad comic and a weaponized ponytail shouldn't count as "work done with the character." The stuff Dixon, O'Neill, and Simone did was work done on the character.

And what do you guys think of the theory on the B&R:E thread that Cass is going to be revealed as a secret apprentice Batman tried to put on the right path some time in the past? I actually like it.

[OWL45]

That would be cool and leaves the store open.

[joybeans]

Okay, forgive me for being the English teacher I'm employed as, but her response there is ambiguously worded in such a way that it doesn't clearly agree with Nightwing's supposition.

Plus it was a bad comic and a weaponized ponytail shouldn't count as "work done with the character." The stuff Dixon, O'Neill, and Simone did was work done on the character.

And what do you guys think of the theory on the B&R:E thread that Cass is going to be revealed as a secret apprentice Batman tried to put on the right path some time in the past? I actually like it.

One of the creepy possessed kids told Dick that Batman "threw [him] away" and "upgraded to the new model". My guess is that Cass is that "new model" that Bruce rescued in secret, presumably after Dick left as Nightwing.

[The Whovian]

It is written in a book after all. It's Tom DeFalco, but here you go.

Thanks. I misread his post and thought he said Cass was Dick's age

[Rac7d*]

Does anyone know how cases got her body reading ability and how it works
The closest thing I have seen to it was Blossom from PPG

Also I JSUT understood her name meaning foreteller, and she can perceive people movements lol

[godisawesome]

If you're new, the original idea behind Cass's skills wa Stuart her father David raised her without any verbal input, instead focusing from birth on physical combat. As a result, Cass's brain was wired to the point where the language sections of her brain were focused on interpreting body language. She later had this changed a bit, so she could talk laconically and just barely read but could still read body language.

Currently, we don't know for the new version of her.

I did love how they displayed it here. Those were actually great POV shots, especially on the specific muscle clusters that could be read.

[Grayson - The Dark Heir]

One of the creepy possessed kids told Dick that Batman "threw [him] away" and "upgraded to the new model". My guess is that Cass is that "new model" that Bruce rescued in secret, presumably after Dick left as Nightwing.

I really like where this is going. I hope they don't mess up this concept (assuming at least part of this theory is correct), hopefully they have Dick accept her as one of the family (he is their leader now), and maybe we can get a brother-sister relationship between Dick and Cass (Dick has a couple brothers, no real sisters unless they push Donna enough. Plus, Dick talks a lot, Cass barely talks, and if written write, I bet it could be hilarious).

[DurararaFTW]

Okay, forgive me for being the English teacher I'm employed as, but her response there is ambiguously worded in such a way that it doesn't clearly agree with Nightwing's supposition.

Yeah, she doesn't agree with Nightwing, who is the one wondering about it in the first place. She hides her face, she builds up a reputation, both can be used to deceive. How people gather from this that she also artificially deaged herself a year or twenty I do not understand.

Plus it was a bad comic and a weaponized ponytail shouldn't count as "work done with the character." The stuff Dixon, O'Neill, and Simone did was work done on the character.

But what you are suggesting is that all of it is thrown out for the sake of work done with Shiva in this comic. Which is nothing.

And what do you guys think of the theory on the B&R:E thread that Cass is going to be revealed as a secret apprentice Batman tried to put on the right path some time in the past? I actually like it.

I'm a bit tired of Batman's unneccesary secrets for that he is immediately remorseful about when someone else reveals it to the Batfamily for him.

[The Cool Thatguy]

It is written in a book after all. It's Tom DeFalco, but here you go.

I love how Nightwing's clunky dialogue assures us that Shiva cannot possibly be over thirty.

Really dodged a bullet!

*cough*