Downtown Rumbles: Sharp's Scotch Bar

[Sub-Zero MKA]

Not Doom, some other character.
https://comicnewbies.com/2017/08/01/...n-of-latveria/

Didn't Fury get into some serious trouble when he did this in Secret War?

[Froggy]

I liked the idea of it. At the same time, I feel it went for a few more pages than it needed to.



Civil War 2 was so dumb and so many levels.

But I'm positive WWH2 will surpass it.

it did go on a bit long but I think the excessive ness is what made it funnier to me


CW2 and secret empire were both wack. SE would’ve been cool if we got Sam taking down evil cap using ant man

WWH2 I don’t have hopes for but I’m glad I was right about Voyager

[Nik Hasta]

That's so odd, too. Like, Tony Stark is egotistical, Logan can be a grade A hole who can escalate wars, Ben Grimm and Thor were misogynistic (back in the day), Gambit can be a creep, Batman is obsessed, Punisher is outright psychotic, but they're all heroes, accepted and true. Even Punisher's face is on kids' shirts at Wal-Mart.

Yet somehow the impetus is on women to be well behaved to set the example in order to be empowering.

It's like only men are allowed the privilege to be complex characters and show that empowerment can take many forms, but women must adhere to strict rules of depiction.

It is a very real thing. Men feel a certain sense of being able to police the actions of women both in life and in media. Cody had kind of demonstrated this by calling up Jessica Jones on the grounds that she is mean to people when she is a clear nod to the noir genre which is full of hard drinking, asshole male detectives.

In truth women can be as multifaceted and as flawed as men and having characters that reflect that complexity is a very important part of empowerment.

[KingofPie]

After Secret Wars ended, I kinda wished Battle World remained the status quo for Marvel...Can't say I feel to differently now.

[Nik Hasta]

The Scene In Question.

Not to be contrarian, but I don't see what people are complaining about here?

Kid wants to feel a sense of persecution to fuel her ambition, which is a real thing, and then latches on to being the next Tony Stark.

It's not the most nuanced or clever writing but it's like... fine?

[Hazard]

After Secret Wars ended, I kinda wished Battle World remained the status quo for Marvel...Can't say I feel to differently now.

I know, right? Battle World had so much potential what with God Emperor Doom and his army of Thors and all the barons and stuff.

[Froggy]

Not to be contrarian, but I don't see what people are complaining about here?

Kid wants to feel a sense of persecution to fuel her ambition, which is a real thing, and then latches on to being the next Tony Stark.

It's not the most nuanced or clever writing but it's like... fine?

Yea like it was just kinda lazy

[Noldere]

Not to be contrarian, but I don't see what people are complaining about here?

Kid wants to feel a sense of persecution to fuel her ambition, which is a real thing, and then latches on to being the next Tony Stark.

It's not the most nuanced or clever writing but it's like... fine?

It just feels really awkward, in my opinion- at least without a bunch of other things to accompany it, giving it more context (which may or may not exist; I wouldn't know, not having read a comics since the mid-90s). The expectation of persecution is absolutely a real thing, as you've said (and I've witnessed on multiple occasions), but given the... quality of the writing, I can't help but kneejerk assume things about the reasoning behind the scene, especially if the reason for the expectation is left unstated but merely assumed.

[The Dog]

[KingofPie]

I know, right? Battle World had so much potential what with God Emperor Doom and his army of Thors and all the barons and stuff.

It didn't help that Secret Wars was the first event that got me interested in years but the aftermath was...lackluster. What really even changed?

The Fantastic Four are gone. Alright...

Miles Morales is a part of the 616 now. I'm cool with that, expected it even.

Old Man Logan too. Oh...uh...alright?

Did any major heroes get a last scene of tragic death to set up some legacy heroes? Nope they waited until Civil War 2. Great.

And now I heard things are all going back to the standard status quo anyway. Which I know they've always done, but...I dunno man. I don't think they even know what they're doing.

[The Dog]

That's... surprisingly reasonable, unless Carol kicking his ass wasn't reasonable.

Granted, comas seem like a thing that should be easily resolved given what happens on Marvel Earth, but it's Marvel Earth, so ...yeah.

Yeah, it's not like he was suffering a gunshot wound. You need to make a deal with Mephisto (or another Satan expy) to fix those!

[Guy1]

Yeah, it's not like he was suffering a gunshot wound. You need to make a deal with Mephisto (or another Satan expy) to fix those!

[bruceleegreyhulk]

well I just saw a Wrinkle in Time. if I had to sum the movie up in one word it would be convoluted. the movie had great visuals but the entire story of the movie was just convoluted as hell. one would have been time figure out the Rubix cube then understanding this movie ( yeah that's hyperbole).

[master of read]

just read vol 1 of "infamous iron man".

i kinda liked it. not a masterpiece or anything. i just find the idea of doom trying to do good in his own way interesting to me. plus, seeing all the villains being scared shitless of a good dr. doom was funny to me.

and like others have said, the 4th wall monologue by mephs was pretty good, if not a bit long winded.

it's like there were two bendis: one who worked on riri williams and one who worked on doom.

[Hazard]

just read vol 1 of "infamous iron man".

i kinda liked it. not a masterpiece or anything. i just find the idea of doom trying to do good in his own way interesting to me. plus, seeing all the villains being scared shitless of a good dr. doom was funny to me.

and like others have said, the 4th wall monologue by mephs was pretty good, if not a bit long winded.

it's like there were two bendis: one who worked on riri williams and one who worked on doom.

Bendis has this thing where the more he likes a character the worse he is at writing them* (See Bendis writing the Hood for another example). He was really, really into Riri.

*To be fair, this is not only a Bendis thing.