Downtown Rumbles: Sharp's Scotch Bar

[Guy1]

[Miburo]

New Coheed and Cambria.

Takes place after "No World for Tomorrow", and "The Crowning", but based on Claudio's own comments; it's somehow a repetition of the past and the story will "mirror" the previous story. Obviously can't get much out of it beyond that at the moment, but it's a great tune regardless.

You have gained my attention.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

You have gained my attention.

In listening to this more, I am almost positive that the last ten seconds of "The Dark Sentencer", is a cannibalized version of "The Hollow".

... Oh man.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Huh, my mistake. I probably confused some dialogue Shigaraki or Black Hole said off panel. Either way new one looks cool/terrifying and I'm interested in seeing more of Hawk despite his attitude.

I'm interested in seeing more of Hawks because of his attitude. He's an odd duck and I wish to learn more about him, see how skilled he is and what kind of mentor he is for Tokoyami.

[Crunkula]

I mean, far be it from me to stop you from clutching your pearls in outrage, but this really isn't that bad.

I beg to differ

Or bad at all in terms of composition. It's a slightly goofy face in a story where Peter is being presented as a largely goofy character. You don't like it, obviously, but in terms of technical skill or appropriateness for the story I really don't see what the big deal is here.

I'm sorry, but stuff like that needs to be called out. I mean, Marvel's basically a huge dumpster fire regarding comics right now, but I would expect them to at least have some form of quality control. I mean, that is what the artist comes up with? Peter "Riding The Short-Bus" Parker?

[grampagen]

I beg to differ

I'm sorry, but stuff like that needs to be called out. I mean, Marvel's basically a huge dumpster fire regarding comics right now, but I would expect them to at least have some form of quality control. I mean, that is what the artist comes up with? Peter "Riding The Short-Bus" Parker?

Eh to be sure it looks pretty obnoxious, but what is the context behind that scene? How's the writing, dare I ask?

I dunno, I haven't bought a Marvel comic since the Thanos Imperative, and that was eight years ago. I prefer to not support things I don't like as a consumer and wait for product to come that's worth supporting.

[Nik Hasta]

I beg to differ

I'm sorry, but stuff like that needs to be called out. I mean, Marvel's basically a huge dumpster fire regarding comics right now, but I would expect them to at least have some form of quality control. I mean, that is what the artist comes up with? Peter "Riding The Short-Bus" Parker?

Called out in the sense that this slightly goofy face that is appropriate for the story and, on a technical level, perfectly fine should not be as goofy?

Quality control doesn't cover "this face is a bit goofy in this one panel," quality control is making sure that the comic is done and is readable. The minutiae of "this looks a bit goofy," isn't going to be covered by any comic publishing house on Marvel's scale.

Again, this is really not that bad. The 90s with their hyper-stylised ultra masculine body types were much more pervasive and much worse on a technical standpoint.

What are you even calling out here?

To your query Gen, the writing is pretty solid in the issue. Strange is a bit of reflective funk after the whole "gave my title to Loki and got hopped up on dark magic again," thing that happened recently and Spider-Man is providing comic relief for the issue and effectively housesitting the Sanctum. At one point Strange helps him spiritually commune with an actual spider and he meets Strange's ghost dog.

It's quite a nice issue, nice enough that people have been actively talking in my social media circles about how enjoyable it was.

[TheLastDalek]

This might sound like an odd way of of viewing things, but I think a talented person who produces crap, is much worse than a talentless one. When a talentless person does a poor job of something, I can at least say they did their best and you can never ask for more than some ones best. A talented person however has no excuse, for not doing better.

[Nik Hasta]

This might sound like an odd way of of viewing things, but I think a talented person who produces crap, is much worse than a talentless one. When a talentless person does a poor job of something, I can at least say they did their best and you can never ask for more than some ones best. A talented person however has no excuse, for not doing better.

You say "worse" but what do you mean by that?

Like morally or something?

Again, from a technical standpoint, there's nothing particularly /wrong/ with the Spider-Man picture. He just looks a bit silly in an issue where his main function is being light hearted silly comic relief.

You don't like it, fine. Ridiculous hyperbole about how it damages the reputation of Marvel as a whole because you don't like it, that's less fine.

[TheLastDalek]

You say "worse" but what do you mean by that?

Like morally or something?

Again, from a technical standpoint, there's nothing particularly /wrong/ with the Spider-Man picture. He just looks a bit silly in an issue where his main function is being light hearted silly comic relief.

You don't like it, fine. Ridiculous hyperbole about how it damages the reputation of Marvel as a whole because you don't like it, that's less fine.

I wasn't talking about the Spider-man picture I was talking about stuff in general. Anyway I'm not sure if morally is the right word, but I can't really be that mad at a talentless person who tries their hand at something and produces crap, while I can be much more displeased with a talented person doing the same.

[master of read]

OH YEAH, he did use bubbles a couple times in Infinity War huh....

That had to be a deliberate reference. If not...thats a weird ass coincidence. Maybe somewhere deep in Jim Starlin's notes for the original Infinity Gauntlet story is some tidbit about Thanos finding bubbles amusing for whatever reason.

And yeah the game is busted as fuck, it's great. The few people I find online tend to annihilate me with so much wacky bullshit that I don't even get mad....okay, I get a little mad.

the gods of marvel 2

[The Dog]

[master of read]

https://www.twitch.tv/shintigercurl/

my first live stream.

[Sharkerbob]

I just thought the image was hilarious. That is the derpiest face I've seen in comics in a while. Top kek meme/emoji/avatar material.

Strange's complete straight face is part of the sell, too, though. Not a bad mug shot of him, either. Might make a good avatar.

Anyway, here's the page I clipped it from: https://i.imgur.com/yrnLRgJ.jpg

To give my opinion on the issue itself, I don't really like it. To be fair, I haven't read the previous issues, so I'm not invested in the story, but even taking that into account:

ART - In review, I'm not really a fan of the art. On the one hand, the rough, almost painting-ish style could very well fit a Dr. Strange story, as it could be used in creative artistic fashion to give a very mystical, even dream-like feel to the scenes. However, there really isn't much of anything mystical happening in the issue. The majority of the comic is just mundane, people sitting around and talking. Strange colors, extremely minimalist backgrounds, weird silhouetting, it's too "artsy" for the scenes being presented.

There are a few stand-alone images that look nice, but mostly, it just reminds me of those cheap tie-in comics of, like, Halo or Silent Hill, where they get an artist that's clearly more artistically expressive and would fit better doing the insert images in a novel or anthology, and the style just doesn't really work in a sequential picture narrative. I mean, this comics art flowed better at it, but it still feels off to me.

WRITING - The dialogue was mostly very bland. Strange's dialogue was fine, pretty bog-standard Strange as the straight man stuff. Zelma was fine. The ghost dog had some funny lines. But Spider-Man... hoo Jebus, Spider-Man was cringey in this. I'm not sure what ditzy 14 year old valley girl stereotype he was channeling, but his dialogue was just painful to read.

The actual story being told was fine, I guess, however mediocre/bad the dialogue was. Spider-Man's parting speech was a nice sentiment. Like, I get what's going on, sure.

But man... comics, man. What happened? They used to be dramatic. Action! Adventure! Shakespearean Pathos! Soap Operatic Love Polygons! Heroic Poses! Spectacular Special Effects! SHOULDER PADS! They used to be done The Marvel Way(tm)! So many of the comics these days just feel like these boiler-plate "kids hanging out", cell phones, sitcom-esque dialogue, punch-line villains, decompression that doesn't even feel like it's for trade anymore, drab schlock.

I read some issues of 1990's New Warriors recently. Holy shit, dudes. I almost forgot they made comics that solid. So much happens in each issue! The characters are compelling! The pacing is tight! A-plots and B-plots and C-plots that all go places! The dialogue is to the point! The villains are threatening! The action is intense! The ham comes with extra cheese! This a team of D-listers and it's better than most of the current mainstream Marvel stuff I've seen.

*sigh*

Butt hey, that's just me.

[bruceleegreyhulk]