Downtown Rumbles: Sharp's Scotch Bar

[Hazard]

Finally finished watching Jessica Jones.

I liked it.

I will also be forever sad the adventures of Long Suffering Babysitter Jessica Jones and Sociopathic Hero Killgrave will never be a thing. Seriously, that's comedy gold.

[FrenchGemini]

[rumbler]... Is he keeping a helicopter from flying away at 1:57 Oo'? Also, him and the Winter Soldier beating the living sh*t out of Tony?... Yeah, I am going to need some context on that last one.[/rumbler]

Those aside, definitely a damn good trailer, Spring 2016 is going to be good between that and Batman V Superman!

[Beadle]

Tony's "So was I." response looks like they're actually going to make this Civil War seem like a balanced, intriguing conflict of philosophies rather than just "Tony Stark is Iron Nazi" which is kinda how they ended up portraying it in the comics.

[Dark Soul # 7]

It also seems like the conflict will start because of something Bucky did, or at least his involvement will escalate things, which helps create plenty of gray zones for both sides.

I've got a good feeling about this one. If it lives up to the hype in the trailer then the Captain America movies will be the best MCU trilogy by far.

[Sharkerbob]

Tony's "So was I." response looks like they're actually going to make this Civil War seem like a balanced, intriguing conflict of philosophies rather than just "Tony Stark is Iron Nazi" which is kinda how they ended up portraying it in the comics.

Hell, even Ultimate Alliance 2 balanced things out more than the comics. And had a better ending, too. : P

It's a little odd seeing Tony talking about how "we need limitations or we're no better than the bad guys" when he's the mad scientist often doing shit on his own whim. Then again, maybe the Ultron event really got to him. It's interesting seeing how he develops as he integrates further into the Marvel Universe.

Definitely been looking forward to Civil War, though. The Cap movies have been the best of the lot in my opinion, and while this is more an Avengers movie, Cap is still the central character, it seems.

[Sharpandpointies]

Tony's "So was I." response looks like they're actually going to make this Civil War seem like a balanced, intriguing conflict of philosophies rather than just "Tony Stark is Iron Nazi" which is kinda how they ended up portraying it in the comics.

Then suddenly switching it at the end to 'But Tony was right!' with Cap being first dogpiled by a bunch of normal people, then harangued by an idiot reporter about Myspace and Nascar?

[The Dog]

Then suddenly switching it at the end to 'But Tony was right!' with Cap being first dogpiled by a bunch of normal people, then harangued by an idiot reporter about Myspace and Nascar?

And it all started because Nitro, a guy who got beat up for info by Daredevil, could suddenly explode with enough force to kill 600+ people. An upgrade absolutely nobody knew about, and his actions being blamed on the heroes. Also, Iron Man and Mr. Fantastic, two of the world's foremost "registration is bad" heroes, suddenly decide "registration is great".

But that's nothing compared to the hypocrisy they show in "One Moment In Time" when, after Peter's publicly outing himself goes as well as you would expect, they proceed to team up with Dr. Strange to use techno-magic nonsense to make everyone forget he's Spider-Man, hiding his identity from the world. Which they were against and THE ENTIRE REASON THEY FOUGHT CAPTAIN AMERICA IN CIVIL WAR!

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Then suddenly switching it at the end to 'But Tony was right!' with Cap being first dogpiled by a bunch of normal people, then harangued by an idiot reporter about Myspace and Nascar?

Honestly, they were both wrong. Tony was just the crazier of the two.

[Cody]

Honestly, they were both wrong. Tony was just the crazier of the two.

How do you think the civil war should have ended? Are you for or against that "Super Hero Registration act" that they were fighting over?

[Sharkerbob]

Honestly, they were both wrong. Tony was just the crazier of the two.

As usual, there was a good precedent for either side, but it was corrupted immediately by politics and power grabs and manipulation.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

How do you think the civil war should have ended? Are you for or against that "Super Hero Registration act" that they were fighting over?

I was, and still am, Thor.

He came back from the dead near the end of Civil War, and he pretty much told each side to go screw themselves.

As usual, there was a good precedent for either side, but it was corrupted immediately by politics and power grabs and manipulation.

Mm, not really. Cap completely refused to even entertain the idea. Then beat the shit out of the Punisher for saving Peter's life. I know he was anti-registration, but he was pretty much a reverse-Nazi.

[Sharpandpointies]

Honestly, they were both wrong. Tony was just the crazier of the two.

My favourite part of Civil War was MightyGodKing's version of it, that's how bad I found the whole thing.

I especially enjoyed his take on the whole 'We will now explain to Dr. Strange that he must register or face charges.' Yeaaaaah, that'll fly.

[Sharkerbob]

Mm, not really. Cap completely refused to even entertain the idea. Then beat the shit out of the Punisher for saving Peter's life. I know he was anti-registration, but he was pretty much a reverse-Nazi.

I meant the ideas presented, not the characters themselves or their responses. Iron Man and Cap had a point. Both went full retard almost immediately so there could be DRAMA!

My favourite part of Civil War was MightyGodKing's version of it, that's how bad I found the whole thing.

I especially enjoyed his take on the whole 'We will now explain to Dr. Strange that he must register or face charges.' Yeaaaaah, that'll fly.

He went and meditated on the Moon, as I recall.

[Sharpandpointies]

I meant the ideas presented, not the characters themselves or their responses. Iron Man and Cap had a point. Both went full retard almost immediately so there could be DRAMA!

So. Many. People written out of character.

...although Hercules was awesome. :)

]He went and meditated on the Moon, as I recall.

Antarctica.

The Watcher showed up (probably why you're thinking 'Moon') and said 'Dude, you could stop this.' Strange replied with 'Seriously, this kind of crap isn't my business. They're going to have to sort it out.' And Uatu said 'Okee-Dokee.' And that was that.

Best characterization in a series full of terrible characterization.

Edit: Except Hercules. Still awesome.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

My favourite part of Civil War was MightyGodKing's version of it, that's how bad I found the whole thing.

I especially enjoyed his take on the whole 'We will now explain to Dr. Strange that he must register or face charges.' Yeaaaaah, that'll fly.

Yep. Thor's was the same way. Tony shows up to try to .. heh, "force" him to comply. Thor rather pissed about Tony using his DNA to create a clonebot that murdered Goliath, shreds his armor in two-ish hits, and tells him to walk back to New York, from New Orleans. Then he flies away.

I meant the ideas presented, not the characters themselves or their responses. Iron Man and Cap had a point. Both went full retard almost immediately so there could be DRAMA!

Eh, the ideas presented were "we need to do something about the collateral caused during super struggles, so let's make everyone register so they can be held accountable".

Captain America's response ? I DON'T WANT THAT BECAUSE AMERICAN FREEDOM.

End of the day, was Cap really right ?