Star Wars VII

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I'm interested in Rebels, the characters seem interesting but I wish it wasn't tied to the originals as prequels cause I rather they get to use their own era. I'm not too pleased about Force unleashed being non canon but then its not really something that felt right continuing after the first game as its end is really definitive.

Right now dont have an opinion on Star Wars 7.

[Sacred Knight]

This. Sticking to the same black vs white of the Force is boring, mundane, and played out. Oh, you're evil and I'm good, let's fight. Yawn. The galaxy has morally gray characters already (Han, Lando) so why can't that carry over to some Force-users? Even Luke, while being the good guy, used the force to choke someone.

We've seen plain good vs evil. I'd like the new villain to provide more than just a physical challenge for the hero--and a more complex moral and intellectual challenge would add something new to the saga.

Because that's not the way the Force works. In regards to the Force Star Wars is a fictional world in which its rules on this are well defined.

Look I'm not even saying I disagree with your or Carabas in the assertion that it would be interesting to see. But the way the mythos is set up it just can't happen. But hey if writers more creative than me could find a way to make it work within the context of what's already been established, more power to them. I think it would be a difficult task though, as again the rules are pretty straight up defined. And I'm wary of continuing Lucas's trend with the prequels in regards to changing things that came before to mash in something new you're insistent on as opposed to working within what's already created.

[LASERlips]

Because that's not the way the Force works. In regards to the Force Star Wars is a fictional world in which its rules on this are well defined.

Look I'm not even saying I disagree with your or Carabas in the assertion that it would be interesting to see. But the way the mythos is set up it just can't happen. But hey if writers more creative than me could find a way to make it work within the context of what's already been established, more power to them. I think it would be a difficult task though, as again the rules are pretty straight up defined. And I'm wary of continuing Lucas's trend with the prequels in regards to changing things that came before to mash in something new you're insistent on as opposed to working within what's already created.

As I've already said, the door has already been opened. The dark side doesn't work exactly as Yoda and Palps said--Vader's redemption proves that. The rules have already been broken wide open, no need to change anything that came before like Lucas did.

[MagnarTheGreat]

Star Wars filming to start on May 13 in Abu Dhabi desert
May 10

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Our sources also report that the sets are getting closer to completion, with a “whole world” having been built on an otherworldly salt lake at one location, a “shuttle-like” spacecraft, a large tower, a “big, centuries-old-looking market”, something the crew are reportedly referring to as the “alien house” and 10 to 15 “really fast buggies” powered by jet engines (landspeeders of Tatooine fame from the previous films, perhaps?)

We have also been told that two lorries of explosives have been brought to one of the sites under high security and that a blast crater has been created. So, it looks like the action in Abu Dhabi could be set to feature a major battle or spacecraft crash of some description.

We also learnt that a group of technicians from the United Kingdom and Los Angeles are currently on site applying the finishing touches before the shoot begins and that some, unnamed, members of the cast are already here and have been out in the dunes practising driving the vehicles they’ll be using when filming begins.

With some of the crew already here (a source told us they checked into an Abu Dhabi hotel on Tuesday) and the main shoot expected to last until at least the end of the month (almost three weeks – and possibly longer depending on hitches such as sandstorms delaying shooting), it certainly looks as if Abu Dhabi is set to play a major role in the new movie. Disney’s chairman Alan Horn’s recent remarks that “We did some second-unit work in Abu Dhabi” may have been a slight understatement.

http://www.thenational.ae/arts-cultu...u-dhabi-desert

[Toonimator]

As I've already said, the door has already been opened. The dark side doesn't work exactly as Yoda and Palps said--Vader's redemption proves that. The rules have already been broken wide open, no need to change anything that came before like Lucas did.

Exactly! And as I pointed out before, most of the dark-siders we've seen were serving Palpatine, who encouraged/demanded they wallow in hate & anger & other negative emotions.

Vader's redemption opened the door; Asajj Ventress striking out on her own and not being a big ball of rage out to kill everyone, even those she'd gladly have killed while still in service to Dooku, put a doorstop under that door to keep it open.

Yoda learned a lot more about the Force at the end of TCW; his lessons to Luke notwithstanding (since teaching Luke that the dark side could be conquered/escaped would be potentially far worse for Luke than what ultimately happened), he knew the Jedi Order had made a ginormous amount of mistakes over the last 1000 years or so, particularly during the period covered by the PT/TCW, and that they weren't the experts on the Force they, in their hubris, thought they were.

I'd rather not have tunnel vision with the ST, because that leads to predictable outcomes like Luke, the Jedi mentor, dying in VII simply because Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan died in the first films of the previous trilogies, the mastermind villain will be some guy in a black hooded robe, etc. My only "tunnel vision" for this is wanting a new Skywalker as one of the main protagonists.

[ChrisIII]

I still think it might be an interesting idea to have Leia turn to the dark side (possibly if Han dies). Sort of a reverse "Dark Empire" situation. Plus it would have Vader's last prediction in ROTJ carry some weight, while still having Luke's promise still make sense.

It's actually something never really explored in the EU, with the exception of A New Hope Infinities which at the time was a "What if?" Star Wars imprint (Pretty much the previous EU is pretty much all that now, although now called "Legends").

[PwrdOn]

It is also an interpretation of 'balance' that isn't very balanced.

If you accept the idea that Lucas cribbed all of the themes for Star Wars from old Kurosawa movies, the term for balance in many Asian languages carries a connotation of peace and harmony. So I suppose if you think of the conflict more in terms of moderation against extremism rather than good against evil, then "bringing balance" would imply victory for the light side rather than a stalemate. And if you think about it, the Jedi really are more like hermits and mystics who resolve questions with meditation and vague riddles rather than firebrand priests railing on about sin and morality, so it does make sense from that perspective.

[MagnarTheGreat]

7DAYS goes in search of Han Solo and the Star Wars crew in Abu Dhabi
May 5

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And pre-production staff, who have been in the UAE since February, have narrowed their search down to two desert locations close to each other in the Western Region. Both have been marked off with traffic cones to help the rest of the crew locate the sites easily. It is believed the location manager scouted the locations because of their dramatic, high sand dunes.

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All production staff, and even staff at hotels where the cast and crew will stay, have been asked to sign confidentially agreements so that the story line is not revealed, a source close to the production said. This weekend, the crew were also seen moving a set workshop away from public view and inside the fenced-off perimeter so that nobody could see it.

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Several large transport trucks were also spotted moving the set, which is believed to include a spacecraft that lands on the exotic “planet” being created in the Western Region.

The crew had several large white bags of rusted and bent metal parts, which are to be strewn in the desert, possibly to show a spacecraft crash or perhaps a post-apocalyptic civilisation.

Meanwhile, it’s understood that the Lucas Films has block booked accommodation near the set in anticipation for full production.

And every morning, two police cars arrive at the accommodation of the crew already on location and escort them to the site, making sure that they are not followed by media or curious members of the public, using diversionary measures if necessary.

The entire project is being overseen by government company, TDIC. Harrison Ford, as Han Solo, and Carrie Fisher, as Princess Leia, are among the stars set to revive their roles for the latest film.

However, the production crew are staying very quiet about which stars will be coming to Abu Dhabi.

“We would advise the curious to stay well clear of the set. It is extremely hot out there and you will not see anything. But we invite you to see it in the cinema when it comes out next year,” said a person close to the production.

http://7daysindubai.com/7days-goes-s...rew-abu-dhabi/

[Pharozonk]

If they are starting to film in Abu Dhabi, does that mean the Tatooine will be used in the film?

[Vidocq]

Did Lucas took Anakin way to far into the Moral Event Horison with all the Child Murdering in Episode III? I was watching Return of the Jedi, my favorite in the series (Ewoks and all), and Vader is considerably less sympathetic now that I know that he killed defenseless kids that trusted him. Had the same feeling all throughout The second Clone Wars series. Anybody else got that feeling?

[Pharozonk]

Did Lucas took Anakin way to far into the Moral Event Horison with all the Child Murdering in Episode III? I was watching Return of the Jedi, my favorite in the series (Ewoks and all), and Vader is considerably less sympathetic now that I know that he killed defenseless kids that trusted him. Had the same feeling all throughout The second Clone Wars series. Anybody else got that feeling?

Well, we always kind of knew that Vader was an evil ******* in the original trilogy so him killing kids in Revenge of the Sith is sad and somewhat disturbing, but falls into line with what we new of his character from the prior films.

[Carabas]

If they are starting to film in Abu Dhabi, does that mean the Tatooine will be used in the film?

I think you pretty much know that Tatooine will be used from the moment they say they're doing a Star Wars film.

[Carabas]

Did Lucas took Anakin way to far into the Moral Event Horison with all the Child Murdering in Episode III?

No. He did that with when Anakin butchered that tribe of Sand People to the last man, woman and child in Ep II.

[Pharozonk]

No. He did that with when Anakin butchered that tribe of Sand People to the last man, woman and child in Ep II.

There's that too.

[Vidocq]

No. He did that with when Anakin butchered that tribe of Sand People to the last man, woman and child in Ep II.

I guess, though there is a difference -character sympathy wise- for him to tell us about than seeing the terrified kid faces as he pulls out his lightsaber.

Saying a character did awful stuff or seeing a planet being destroyed doesn't carry the same weight as putting a face and voice to the victims (at least on film).