Controversial Spider-Man Opinions

[Kman2]

That doesn't excuse his neglect or attitude.





And then he wondered if rejecting Stark was part of a test, so he really still wants Stark's approval lol.

Well of course, that’s why Peter got fed up, just making it clear that stark wasn’t being an ******* on purpose and he did care.

Yeah, but he didn’t say it was gonna make everyone forget until he started casting it. Peter just wanted it to be like if mysterio never revealed it. But yeah both should have really thought it through.

What’s your point with this last part? We know he actually didn’t think he was ready to be an avenger, in the next movie he’s ready to stick to being just the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Starks approval wasn’t the goal there that’s really peters own desires. It would be really weird for him to only say that because he thinks that’s what mister stark would want him to say And would go against the themes of the movie.

I only watched the first MCU SPider-Man movie so I won't talk about the other two but it truly sucks. Spidey is dumb. Too dependant in being a licker of Iron Man. The only good thing in the movie is Michael Keaton as the Vulture.

I can understand thinking Spider-Man was dumb, he made a lot of mistakes. But being a licker of Ironman is a crazy take. When he did nothing but ignore what Tony wanted to follow what he thought was right.

But Peter does become more competent in the other movies and pretty badass, he still uses high tech though so if that something they puts you off, I guess you might not like them. Of and Tony’s dead so he can’t even be a licker of him in those movies

[Spidey_Legend]

Well of course, that’s why Peter got fed up, just making it clear that stark wasn’t being an ******* on purpose and he did care.

Yeah, but he didn’t say it was gonna make everyone forget until he started casting it. Peter just wanted it to be like if mysterio never revealed it. But yeah both should have really thought it through.

What’s your point with this last part? We know he actually didn’t think he was ready to be an avenger, in the next movie he’s ready to stick to being just the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Starks approval wasn’t the goal there that’s really peters own desires. It would be really weird for him to only say that because he thinks that’s what mister stark would want him to say And would go against the themes of the movie.



I can understand thinking Spider-Man was dumb, he made a lot of mistakes. But being a licker of Ironman is a crazy take. When he did nothing but ignore what Tony wanted to follow what he thought was right.

But Peter does become more competent in the other movies and pretty badass, he still uses high tech though so if that something they puts you off, I guess you might not like them. Of and Tony’s dead so he can’t even be a licker of him in those movies

But Peter did not ignore Tony because is the correct thing to do and taking care of his responsability. He did it to get Tony's approval at the end. That's being a licker.

Yes, the technology stuff is a big no for me but I won't say anything about the other movies.

[Kman2]

But Peter did not ignore Tony because is the correct thing to do and taking care of his responsability. He did it to get Tony's approval at the end. That's being a licker.

Yes, the technology stuff is a big no for me but I won't say anything about the other movies.

He did it for multiple reasons just like peter stops the lizard or other criminals from doing bad stuff but also takes pictures of himself while doing it to make money.

Mcu Peter wants to stop the vulture because what he’s doing is wrong and because the weapons are crazy dangerous, he’s witnessed how dangerous they are himself.
Tony says no stay out of it. Peter feels like he’s being underestimated and wants to prove himself but he’s only going after the vulture because it’s the right and responsible thing to do.

I don’t see how not wanting to be underestimated makes him a bootlicker. To be a bootlicker he’d have to do exactly what Tony wants to make Tony happy. Not ignoring him to do the right thing because Tony underestimates him.

[The Negative Zone]

In the end.. Dan Slott won.

[Celgress]

I'm not sure if this is controversial but here goes -

Injecting mysticism with the whole Spider Totem and Web of Life stuff into Spidey was the worst thing that ever happened to 616 Peter. Sure, we got a few interesting things from it such as 616 (kind of) Miles and OG concept (Universe 65 setting) Spider-Gwen, however, Peter Parker has always been a character grounded in science and so he should remain. And it opened the door for the inclusion of magical-heavy concepts like OMD, Kindred, and most recently the current run of Amazing.

[phonogram12]

I'm not sure if this is controversial but here goes -

Injecting mysticism with the whole Spider Totem and Web of Life stuff into Spidey was the worst thing that ever happened to 616 Peter. Sure, we got a few interesting things from it such as 616 (kind of) Miles and OG concept (Universe 65 setting) Spider-Gwen, however, Peter Parker has always been a character grounded in science and so he should remain. And it opened the door for the inclusion of magical-heavy concepts like OMD, Kindred, and most recently the current run of Amazing.

Yeah, as much as I enjoyed JMS' run, this was the one bit I was always a bit unsure about.

[marhawkman]

I'm not sure if this is controversial but here goes -

Injecting mysticism with the whole Spider Totem and Web of Life stuff into Spidey was the worst thing that ever happened to 616 Peter. Sure, we got a few interesting things from it such as 616 (kind of) Miles and OG concept (Universe 65 setting) Spider-Gwen, however, Peter Parker has always been a character grounded in science and so he should remain. And it opened the door for the inclusion of magical-heavy concepts like OMD, Kindred, and most recently the current run of Amazing.

I have to agree. It's ... wonky and has resulted in some terrible storytelling.

[PCN24454]

I'm not sure if this is controversial but here goes -

Injecting mysticism with the whole Spider Totem and Web of Life stuff into Spidey was the worst thing that ever happened to 616 Peter. Sure, we got a few interesting things from it such as 616 (kind of) Miles and OG concept (Universe 65 setting) Spider-Gwen, however, Peter Parker has always been a character grounded in science and so he should remain. And it opened the door for the inclusion of magical-heavy concepts like OMD, Kindred, and most recently the current run of Amazing.

I always find it funny whenever people act like the science in Spider-Man made sense. It was always magic with the serial numbers filed off. That’s why I consider the “grounded” argument to be dumb.

[Captain Craig]

Nothing says science like spider (lab enhanced or not) fried by radiation and yet lives long enough to bite not ONE but (retconned) TWO folks.

Science

Magic

Synonyms in comics essentially.

[Celgress]

I always find it funny whenever people act like the science in Spider-Man made sense. It was always magic with the serial numbers filed off. That’s why I consider the “grounded” argument to be dumb.

Heck, it is science-based in so far as anything akin to Star Trek or Star Wars can be called science-based. Perhaps pseudoscience would be a better term.

[Alan2099]

Heck, it is science-based in so far as anything akin to Star Trek or Star Wars can be called science-based. Perhaps pseudoscience would be a better term.

Too bad there isn't a word for stories that use Science in Fictional ways.

[Celgress]

Too bad there isn't a word for stories that use Science in Fictional ways.

Do you mean sci-fi? Yeah, maybe I should have used that word, to begin with. Either way, the "complaint" does seem a bit nitpicking considering this is fiction we are talking about. Spidey's roots are in sci-fi, not fantasy (which tends to be more magical-based).

[blackspidey2099]

I'm not sure if this is controversial but here goes -

Injecting mysticism with the whole Spider Totem and Web of Life stuff into Spidey was the worst thing that ever happened to 616 Peter. Sure, we got a few interesting things from it such as 616 (kind of) Miles and OG concept (Universe 65 setting) Spider-Gwen, however, Peter Parker has always been a character grounded in science and so he should remain. And it opened the door for the inclusion of magical-heavy concepts like OMD, Kindred, and most recently the current run of Amazing.

I don’t like any argument that is based on “X has always been this way and so it should always be this way”. Spider-Man is a versatile enough character to work in any setting or any type of story, as long as the writing is good. JMS handled the mystical elements great, so just because Wells, Spencer and Quesada weren’t able to do it doesn’t mean other writers shouldn’t get the chance if they think it would make for a good story.

[PCN24454]

I don’t like any argument that is based on “X has always been this way and so it should always be this way”. Spider-Man is a versatile enough character to work in any setting or any type of story, as long as the writing is good. JMS handled the mystical elements great, so just because Wells, Spencer and Quesada weren’t able to do it doesn’t mean other writers shouldn’t get the chance if they think it would make for a good story.

Yeah, that’s why I hate it when a lot of high concept stuff gets retconned like Tinkerer and Judas Traveler.

[Speed Force League Unlimited]

I like the concept of Peter Parker working for Stark Industries, it doesn't make him a section chief or such high promotion, how he manages his time makes him unfit for such position.

Although.. I don't really mind the concept of Parker Industries, I think making the character grow to adjust how he handles situations and manage his time is good progress that is kinda overdue for the character.

I don’t like any argument that is based on “X has always been this way and so it should always be this way”. Spider-Man is a versatile enough character to work in any setting or any type of story, as long as the writing is good. JMS handled the mystical elements great, so just because Wells, Spencer and Quesada weren’t able to do it doesn’t mean other writers shouldn’t get the chance if they think it would make for a good story.

While I really love how JMS handled the stuff, I'd still rather keep this level of mysticism away from Spider-Man, and would rather not see other writers indulge the idea.