Controversial Spider-Man Opinions

[Beacon]

Another Controversial Opinion that got moved because the rest of my post was about the multi-title thing:

I’d like Anna Maria to stick around for a while. Sure a relationship seems doomed to fail but it’d be fun to see them try.

Speaking of love interests, I’m kind of surprised they never revisited Betty in the OMD era. It was the first time in forever that they’d both been single and that’s always been the thing keeping them apart. Well that and that MJ was going to be the one he ended up with but they’ve thrown that away.

[Rahul]

Deadpool is funnier than Spider-Man. And there is nothing wrong with it. I like it when Spider-Man acts s the straight man to Deadpool.

[theshow07]

Spider-Marriage was a stunt
Mayday Parker hero was easy

[cyberhubbs]

Another Controversial Opinion that got moved because the rest of my post was about the multi-title thing:

I’d like Anna Maria to stick around for a while. Sure a relationship seems doomed to fail but it’d be fun to see them try.

Speaking of love interests, I’m kind of surprised they never revisited Betty in the OMD era. It was the first time in forever that they’d both been single and that’s always been the thing keeping them apart. Well that and that MJ was going to be the one he ended up with but they’ve thrown that away.

They did. Betty and Peter had a "date", but clearly felt they worked better as friends by the end of the story. Think it was the same issue Peter went speed-dating.

[Aruran.]

Spider-Marriage was a stunt
Mayday Parker hero was easy

I don't get what you mean for the second line. Can you explain that?
BTW since the marriage happened every single person at Marvel has said it was a stunt, so thats more of a controversial fact.

[Randumbz]

1) Venom is a terrible character
2) Carnage is even worse
3) John Romita Jr.'s art was the worst art that the series ever had
4) Dan Slott is the best Spider-man author since Stan Lee
5) Ultimate Spider-man has lost it's flare and needs to end
6) One more day was poorly written, but it needed to happen. The stories were dull all throughout the 90s and 2000s and everything after One More Day has been interesting.

[Arfguy]

Can't say how controversial it will be and maybe it's already been said, but:

Green Goblin is a stupid Spider-Man villain...and may actually be one of the dumbest villains created in the history of comics. He looks stupid and he is stupid. Green Goblin = the epitome of stupid.

[Beacon]

Eddie Brock has a stupid motivation and makes for a terrible villain; there’s a reason most other versions of Eddie tweak his 616 origin so much that he’s a different person. Mac may have failed to live up to his potential as Venom but at least he had potential. In fact, as much as I hate the character, Carnage is a better Venom than Eddie.

They did. Betty and Peter had a "date", but clearly felt they worked better as friends by the end of the story. Think it was the same issue Peter went speed-dating.

IIRC she was written more as a platonic friend at the time and the date wasn't really a date so much as them catching up and her trying to set him up with someone…which is odd since Peter David’s FNSM had just revealed she was still in love with him. MJ/Peter wasn’t the only relationship that BND ruined.

[RobertMacQuarrie1]

Dan Slott has moved Spider-Man farther away from the "everyman" archetype far more than either JMS run or the marriage combined ever did.

[SpOck]

What prevents Bendis from becoming one of the all-time Marvel greats was killing Peter Parker, easily the best character in the entire Ultimate Universe and at one time much more interesting than 616 Peter.

Peter Parker is indeed more important than Spider-Man.

I disliked seeing Aunt May being characterised as a fragile old woman that only exists for giving Peter advice and constantly reminiscing her life with Uncle Ben. Thankfully Ultimate May came along, and it's nice to see that both the 616 May and the ASM May are closer in characterisation to Ultimate May.

Gwen > Mary Jane.

I dislike a lot of Bagley's early art. I think, however, that I dislike it more because of how 90s art was in general. Bagley's art has of course, evolved and he's become one of the most influential comic book artists today.

John Romita Jr's work is criminally underrated. In my opinion he is as important a Spidey artist as Bagley.

Marcos Martin is the best artist working in the comics industry today, and he just might become one of the all-time greatest, especially if he comes back to the Spidey book sometime.

John Romita Sr. is the best Spider-Man artist of all time.

The Civil War stories sorrounding Spider-Man and everything that came afterwards before Brand New Day is the most depressing Spider-Man run ever. Sure, OMD wasn't the best way (at all) to undo the damage that had been made to the Spidey book but it was necessary. Peter's identity was public & his life was an absolute wreck, Aunt May was about to die a horrible death, the marriage with MJ was going down the drain, etc. Quality-wise & story-wise, the book was going down the drain. I'm sure there were better ways of handling OMD, though.

Amazing Spider-Man 2 is indeed a damned good movie on par with Spider-Man 2. Sure, it has its weak spots but so does every movie, and in this case I'd say critics are overly harsh on it. What it does best is that it is mainly a Peter Parker story where Peter loves, suffers, and ultimately bounces back. Classical Spider-Man. His supporting cast is strong as heck too, especially Aunt May & Gwen. Harry was well-developed too (albeit rushed into becoming the Goblin). And I honestly couldn't care less about villains like Electro, honestly. He never was much of a memorable character to begin with in the comics and adding a whole backstory to the character is only time wasted on Peter & the rest of the main cast.

In the long run the new Spidey movies as a whole will be considered better than the old Spidey movies. In my opinion, the first 2 Raimi movies work very well as stand-alone movies. And, Spider-Man 2 besides the odd excessively campy scene holds up very well (just look at the Spidey vs Ock battle on the train & Peter saving the people on the train). What hinders it is the Raimi camp sprayed all over the movies, Spidey rarely wisecracking, the awkward Mary Jane-Peter scenes (and Mary Jane being kidnapped by the Norman, Ock, Venom, and even Harry), and especially the fact that Peter never actually matures. At the start of the three Raimi movies, it feels as if I'm watching the same loser, insecure, borderline mute Peter from before he was bit by the radioactive spider. His being Spider-Man, growing older, losing Uncle Ben & Harry, and his relationship with MJ are things that are supposed to make him mature! Through the new Spidey movies, I can actually see Peter growing up and maturing. He starts off in characterisation closer to the 1610 Peter in ASM1 but starts to morph into the 616 Peter in ASM2, it's yet to be seen if he finally matures into THE Amazing Spider-Man. The series could do with stronger villains though, especially some that give Spidey more of a fight.

Andrew Garfield owns the Peter Parker role, in the way Robert Downey Jr owns the Tony Stark role. And, since Garfield owns the Peter role, therefore he owns the Spider-Man role too.

I agree with all of this except for killing Ultimate Peter. I'm happy that we have Miles now. Otherwise, this is my exact list.

[Mister Mets]

Dan Slott has moved Spider-Man farther away from the "everyman" archetype far more than either JMS run or the marriage combined ever did.

At the end of JMS's run, Peter Parker was one of the most wanted and famous people in the world. He's not quite at that level in the Slott comics.

Plus, it's easier for Slott or the next guy to make Peter more of a common man than it was to retcon the marriage.

[RobertMacQuarrie1]

At the end of JMS's run, Peter Parker was one of the most wanted and famous people in the world. He's not quite at that level in the Slott comics.

Which was not part of JMS plan for the character, and was working on what the company wanted.

For the majority of his run, JMS had Peter work as a High School teacher living in a one bedroom apartment, and regularly interacting with average people. The time he spent as the "most wanted and famous person in the world" was only a handful of months after several years on the title.

Slott has taken Peter and gave him a job that gave him endless resources to create tools and gadgets, a high paying job, graduated him from college and made him a doctor (further aging the character), and made him the head of his own company.

Plus, it's easier for Slott or the next guy to make Peter more of a common man than it was to retcon the marriage.

The marriage was not easy to retcon.

Plus, during Peter's time as a married man, he was a student going to college, regularly struggling to pay the bills, even being evicted from his home on multiple occasions.

Slott has made Peter into someone with his own company and resources, his own island to house and rehabilitate prisoners, and essentially made it far easier for him to be Spider-Man.

And given his statements, Slott seems to believe that Peter being a Doctor won't be retconned at all.

[Aruran.]

Peter being a loser as an adult is stupid. It's ok for his life to suck when he's in highschool cause he's still a teenager. When he's an adult it becomes a stupid plot idea from the writer to show they aren't really creative. It's ok for a kid to be irresponsible cause they won't know, it's just stupid when an adult acts irresponsible.

Peter being an everyman when he's an adult is also stupid.

[Alan2099]

Peter being a loser as an adult is stupid. It's ok for his life to suck when he's in highschool cause he's still a teenager. When he's an adult it becomes a stupid plot idea from the writer to show they aren't really creative. It's ok for a kid to be irresponsible cause they won't know, it's just stupid when an adult acts irresponsible.

Peter being an everyman when he's an adult is also stupid.

What? Do you think everything just magically gets better, all your problems go away, and any character flaws you have vanish when you become an adult?

[T.D.]

Much like Dick Grayson taking over as Batman, I would have loved to have seen Otto Octavius as Spider-Man for at least five years before the inevitable return of Peter.