-If anything, Carol's classic origin mimics Spider Man or Hulk's: Bystander gets unwillingly dosed with radiation: gets powers.
Now the movie trailer from what we see could make Carol seem a bit Hal Jordan-ish (except its a Hal Jordan that was press-ganged and brainwashed into joining up).
The Comics retcon (that I m just now hearing about!) makes her more like Aquaman and or Namor with whole "overlooked hybrid kid has powers greater than the parent races have" trope.
Prepare for "Before Captain Marvel", with the adventures of Marie Danvers on earth as a kree explorer, falling in love and how she inspired Mar-Vell to defect the kree empire and become a superhero.
You know this is going to happen.
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I understand what you're trying to say, but that's kinda tricky since DC retconned Diana's origin during the new 52, making her Zeus' daughter and basically transforming her into a mere demigod just like any other, and this origin was the one used on the movie. So, since WW's origin actually lost her symbolism and her originality with the new 52 retcon, I'm not sure if she is a good comparison.
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I don't see much of a problem with it. If anything it makes it all the more merry. In the fact it could draw in readers who might relate more to said brother or mother of Carol.
Or even then if they go the dormant power route it just leaves it to her being the only child with powers and the kree magnitron device still being an important part of her origin.I don't mind if her sibilings have powers as long as they variate and don't cross to far into each others territory. He'll you could do what they did with Phylla and Genis.
Ill be honest and suggest I jumped at the Wonder Woman mention seeing a thread asking if Carol is being turned into Marvel's Wonder Woman assuming it was into reference of the recent developments.
The only thing I think is major tthat they keep with Mar-Vell is the mentor role tbh. The reason she decided to take on the name.
So if the whole family gets Powers I guess we could have a captain marvel family...
Sheesh! A bit of an over reaction and huge twisting of what I posted. People are saying that Marvel wants Carol to be its Wonder Woman, but she can never really be that. I know she has Marvel in her name, but there was nothing wrong with her being Captain Marvel as an homage to a departed friend.
Captain Marvel never really passed on his powers to Carol. They were linked, but there was no passing. Her origin is not vastly different from Spider-Man, Hulk or Daredevil -- all in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I think Annette would be a great Tracy Burke. I'm curious to see who she's playing.
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The Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie literally makes a "Doctor Strange" joke when Sony didn't own the rights to the character. There are maps that referenced Atlantis when Marvel needs Universal's permission to make a Namor movie. Besides, I'm not talking about referencing the X-Men by saying "this is like Rogue." I'm talking about doing an homage where Carol Danvers loses her memory in a similar way to that seen in Avengers Annual 10 (which isn't even an X-Men issue) and is referenced in Brian Reid's Ms. Marvel run (as well as the X-Men).
Yeah, I said it's a combination of the Brood experimentation with the Rogue memory loss. All an homage, of course, since it doesn't use either of those characters.
Yeah, at a minimum, I'm willing to give this a chance. I don't think the retcon is necessary unless it leads to a good story, but I don't mind the retcon either.
Well, halfway predicted it.
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I was expecting the woman her dad had an affair with was Kree. I didn't really love that idea because I didn't want Carol's mom to not be her mother. I didn't expect her mom to be Kree at all, though. That caught me completely flat footed. I also had considered the idea that the other alien was Carol's half-sister
I thought this story made clear that your first take was correct.
I've said before that I hate hair conversations. Male characters almost never get them, but Carol gets it consistently and often in the most insulting ways possible (e.g., "she looks like a boy."). But on the chronology question, I noticed Carol had her hair up during the fight and it was only noticeably long afterward. That suggests to me that the initial pages of Life of Captain Marvel took place before after She-Hulk was cured of the issues from her Mariko Tamaki run but before Avengers #1 started.
I posted my own ideas on how to improve that story (and I don't think this story is inconsistent with the Psyche-Magnetron), but the original story has significant issues. She essentially gets her powers by being a damsel in distress. She has absolutely no agency in that story. That being said, being born a certain way doesn't give one agency either. Either way, she seems to have had her powers triggered by the Psyche-Magnetron. It's not like that story didn't happen.
Anyway, the Wonder Woman comparison people are making doesn't make much sense, but is noteworthy since that had a significant retcon as well. If anything, that retcon was more significant because it actually undercut a lot of the original story - Wonder Woman was not born to a man, she was made of clay from a people who couldn't reproduce because they were all women. She grew up as the only child among them. That was so much cooler and unique. Carol's origin is nowhere near that original or unique aside from the part where she's tied up during it.
Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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